Black Hawg or Big Black Snare? Tried Both?

filthyrich · 20th March 2009

I know that the truly slutty thing to do is get a black beauty, but has anyone tried out both of these black beauty copies?

opinions?

p.s.--side question: If I've got a 5" acrolite...do I really need a great 6.5" drum too?
...and for what application would I always use one over the other?
I hear that both do 95% of everything.

If what I have will do 95% of rock/punk/metal, than should I just get a great Maple snare and be happy with the 5" as my go to for all things rockin?

Sorry-tax boom GAS
thanks.

biggator6 · 20th March 2009

The worldmax drums (and all the others that use their shells) aren't the same as a black beauty, but they're great drums on their own.

Yes, I like having a 5" and a 6.5" - just different sounds.

If you don't have a good wood snare, I'd go for that first.. Acrolite will cover a lot of ground for a metal snare - pick up a good maple snare next, then brass.
"-)

Beefsurgeon · 22nd March 2009

Both of those drums are great. In fact, they're the same drum. Same shell from the same source, and pretty much the same parts on it. This is true for pretty much all of the Black Beauty copies built by the smaller companies. If you a good deal on 6.5" deep shell, I'd go for it.

I find that a 5" acrolite excels at really fast heavy music, while a 6.5" deep brass shell works really well for more backbeat driven "rock" stuff. That said, they are both absurdly versatile drums. I don't think there are any hard or fast rules for when to use each one in the genres you mentioned, it would be more a matter of matching the sound to the band/song you are working with.

And yes, get a nice maple snare drum too.

filthyrich · 11th April 2009

Got the Pork Pie Big Black. I found it scratch and dent at musicians friend for a steal.
I've heard and recorded a bunch of snares. It is, by far, the best snare I've had a chance to hear in person. It blew my head off volume wise in a live practice situation with a heavy hitter.

I own a older steel pearl export, 2 ludwig acrolites, the new big black and a pacific lx maple.

I think I've got all my bases covered. I'd like a nicer maple snare around 5-6.5" depth..but the pacific works for now.

Just thought I'd pass that on. Kudos to Pork Pie for the Big Black snare!!!!

20th March 2009	#1
filthyrich Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 854 Thread Starter	Black Hawg or Big Black Snare? Tried Both? I know that the truly slutty thing to do is get a black beauty, but has anyone tried out both of these black beauty copies? opinions? p.s.--side question: If I've got a 5" acrolite...do I really need a great 6.5" drum too? ...and for what application would I always use one over the other? I hear that both do 95% of everything. If what I have will do 95% of rock/punk/metal, than should I just get a great Maple snare and be happy with the 5" as my go to for all things rockin? Sorry-tax boom GAS thanks. __________________ Are those real Neves, Claire? I bet they are.

11th April 2009	#4
filthyrich Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 854 Thread Starter	wow Got the Pork Pie Big Black. I found it scratch and dent at musicians friend for a steal. I've heard and recorded a bunch of snares. It is, by far, the best snare I've had a chance to hear in person. It blew my head off volume wise in a live practice situation with a heavy hitter. I own a older steel pearl export, 2 ludwig acrolites, the new big black and a pacific lx maple. I think I've got all my bases covered. I'd like a nicer maple snare around 5-6.5" depth..but the pacific works for now. Just thought I'd pass that on. Kudos to Pork Pie for the Big Black snare!!!!

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20th March 2009	#2
biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,979	The worldmax drums (and all the others that use their shells) aren't the same as a black beauty, but they're great drums on their own. Yes, I like having a 5" and a 6.5" - just different sounds. If you don't have a good wood snare, I'd go for that first.. Acrolite will cover a lot of ground for a metal snare - pick up a good maple snare next, then brass. "-)

22nd March 2009	#3
Beefsurgeon Gear Head Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 34	Both of those drums are great. In fact, they're the same drum. Same shell from the same source, and pretty much the same parts on it. This is true for pretty much all of the Black Beauty copies built by the smaller companies. If you a good deal on 6.5" deep shell, I'd go for it. I find that a 5" acrolite excels at really fast heavy music, while a 6.5" deep brass shell works really well for more backbeat driven "rock" stuff. That said, they are both absurdly versatile drums. I don't think there are any hard or fast rules for when to use each one in the genres you mentioned, it would be more a matter of matching the sound to the band/song you are working with. And yes, get a nice maple snare drum too.