That 70's snare sound - Page 2

cjmask · 24th June 2008

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Originally Posted by dadumtish

there is two snare sounds in the 70s from my experience

1/ the low end DIsco thuddy snare ala steve gadd or tony thompson
( a supra tuned mid low with an o ring will give this )

2/ the open , snappy bonham / paise / bruford etc snare
a supra tuned high no damping , or a 402

I agree, to me 70's snare is either bonham or some sort of John Lennon solo album (anyone in particular play on those?)

chrisso · 24th June 2008

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Originally Posted by cjmask

or some sort of John Lennon solo album (anyone in particular play on those?)

Andy Newmark for sure.
Jim Gordon?

charles maynes · 24th June 2008

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Originally Posted by chrisso

Andy Newmark for sure.
Jim Gordon?

Jim Keltnor?

Jax · 25th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadumtish

there is two snare sounds in the 70s from my experience

1/ the low end DIsco thuddy snare ala steve gadd or tony thompson
( a supra tuned mid low with an o ring will give this )

2/ the open , snappy bonham / paise / bruford etc snare
a supra tuned high no damping , or a 402

and rim shotting both styles is standard .

I can't overlook at least one more 70's snare sound

3. Clyde Stubblefield, Jabo Starks, Bernard Purdie, Melvin Parker. All James Brown drummers. I don't know what snares they used, but it was generally a tight, snapping, no ringing sound that we've all undoubtedly heard. Might as well have been a marching snare although it could well have been an acrolite or supra cranked tight. Anybody who knows, fill in the blanks.

chrisso · 25th June 2008

I don't know but Acrolite and/or Supra would be a good guess.

dadumtish · 25th June 2008

ok lol . agrreed ! 3

audiovisceral · 28th June 2008

i was just watching

YouTube - Led Zeppelin-When the Levee Breaks

which has an awesome 70s explosive drum sound i love.

i'm wild guessing acrolite/supra, spaceous studio, plus plenty of verb. is it an echo chamber or a plate? sounds like the whole set or at least the bass drum too is getting it, whatever it is... (?)

bonham fans?

edit - found this thread John Bonham

"I heard they also tape delayed the room mics, sometimes 20-30 feet from the drums and added that in as well. Very big, bold, and ambient. I have put a lot of effort in getting a similar vibe, as my drummer is a Bonham fiend."

"That wasn't reverb, it was the room."

?

allencollins · 28th June 2008

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Originally Posted by audiovisceral

i was just watching

YouTube - Led Zeppelin-When the Levee Breaks

which has an awesome 70s explosive drum sound i love.

i'm wild guessing acrolite/supra, spaceous studio, plus plenty of verb. is it an echo chamber or a plate? sounds like the whole set or at least the bass drum too is getting it, whatever it is...

bonham fans?

ya tricked me I thought it was a live vid of levee breaks.
That drums sound is monsterous. Nothing comes close

That was Hedley Grange Castle in a stair well I heard? not sure

biggator6 · 28th June 2008

6.5" Supraphonic.. tuned pretty high, played like he was trying to crush it.
Ludwig 3-ply 26" kick, tuned up like a big-band player.. played like he was trying to crush it.
Paiste 16" soundedge hats.. Paiste 18 & 20" crashes.. 24" ride. By LZ4 he may have already switched to 2002s from giant beats (don't recall exactly when he switched).

In a BIG room (I believe the above mention of Hedley Grange is correct) with distant mics and a Binson Echorec for the slapback.

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25th June 2008	#35
chrisso Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oz Posts: 16,836	I don't know but Acrolite and/or Supra would be a good guess.

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dadumtish Gear Head Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 67	ok lol . agrreed ! 3

28th June 2008	#37
audiovisceral Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,546	i was just watching YouTube - Led Zeppelin-When the Levee Breaks which has an awesome 70s explosive drum sound i love. i'm wild guessing acrolite/supra, spaceous studio, plus plenty of verb. is it an echo chamber or a plate? sounds like the whole set or at least the bass drum too is getting it, whatever it is... (?) bonham fans? edit - found this thread John Bonham "I heard they also tape delayed the room mics, sometimes 20-30 feet from the drums and added that in as well. Very big, bold, and ambient. I have put a lot of effort in getting a similar vibe, as my drummer is a Bonham fiend." "That wasn't reverb, it was the room." ?

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biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,979	6.5" Supraphonic.. tuned pretty high, played like he was trying to crush it. Ludwig 3-ply 26" kick, tuned up like a big-band player.. played like he was trying to crush it. Paiste 16" soundedge hats.. Paiste 18 & 20" crashes.. 24" ride. By LZ4 he may have already switched to 2002s from giant beats (don't recall exactly when he switched). In a BIG room (I believe the above mention of Hedley Grange is correct) with distant mics and a Binson Echorec for the slapback.