Which Birch Kit?

BradD · 3rd August 2007, 04:53 PM

I'm in the market for a new studio kit in the next few months. I've had my eyes set on either a Yamaha Recording Custom or Birch Absolute for awhile. I must admit that none of the local music stores have one to play, so my interest is largely based on reputation/word of mouth.

I've been noticing some very good deals lately on Tama Starclassic Performer birch kits. Which of these three birch models would you recommend for a studio kit? Thanks.

BradD · 6th August 2007, 11:31 PM

Anyone?

jonaknt · 6th August 2007, 11:37 PM

I have a yamaha birch custom absolute kit and it sounds great. nice and punchy.
I think C&C Custom Drums makes a birch kit. They're made around Kansas City I think so you should check those out.

BradD · 6th August 2007, 11:55 PM

Will do. Thanks, Jon.

meadowz06 · 12th August 2007, 01:55 AM

Try and find a set Premier Genista drums. They were Premier's top of the line birch kit. I have a kit and they sound amazing live and at the house. The contruction and quality of the shells is first rate. The inside of the shells are smooth as a babies bottom. Great birch drums. Also try the Yamaha Birch drums.

meadowz06 · 12th August 2007, 01:56 AM

Recording Customs are hard to beat. They have probably been used on more records than any other drum set in the history of modern recording. Also vintage Gretsch drums are amazing sounding.

chetatkinsdiet · 12th August 2007, 02:08 AM

Don't forget the Tama Superstar kits from the 80s. They're great....destined to become classics/collectables and are still somewhat of a bargain in the used market.

m

meadowz06 · 12th August 2007, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetatkinsdiet

Don't forget the Tama Superstar kits from the 80s. They're great....destined to become classics/collectables and are still somewhat of a bargain in the used market.

m

Great drums. I regret selling my old superstars.

WannaBStudioNut · 12th August 2007, 02:42 PM

You cant go past the Yamaha Recording Customs! I've been playing them since i started playing drums. Long time! They just ooze out MOJO everytime!! That why i have a few of them!

Failing that, my Gretsch Broardkaster does sound Fat too.

WannaBStudioNut · 12th August 2007, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meadowz06

Recording Customs are hard to beat. They have probably been used on more records than any other drum set in the history of modern recording. Also vintage Gretsch drums are amazing sounding.

Amen to that!!!!

dlmorley · 12th August 2007, 02:56 PM

I have a German made birch Sonor set which I think sounds great..

True North · 12th August 2007, 03:11 PM

I own a few drum kits but my favourite toms to record are my Recording Customs. I wouldn't reccomend them if you are looking for a wide open, ringy sound. They would not be appropriate for something like a be-bop type gig. If you are recording any form of contemporary music there is no better set of tom shells. They are extremely easy to tune and you will be able to get usable sounds faster than pretty much any other kit.

Snares are a whole other beast, not a huge fan of Recording Custom snares.

I can take or leave the kick - it is really great on some applications. Very Puncy but sometimes lacking the depth and 'ooomph' I can get out of other kicks. Stanard issue Yamaha kicks come with a very large hole in the front skin and this doesen't help if you are trying to use the front skin as part of your sound.

Hope that helps, cheers

studjo · 12th August 2007, 07:55 PM

I still love the Recording Custom and almost all drummers who recorded at my place used that kit in the end

All that said - the kick of the Yamaha Absolute kicks major butt. I'd check those for sure.

Jo

BradD · 12th August 2007, 08:34 PM

Thanks guys. I think I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for the best deal on a set of used Recording Customs or Birch Customs I can find.

Superdrumskills · 16th August 2007, 04:52 PM

i have a C&C kit and they are great its maple not birch but they make amazing drums and are really good to work with

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3rd August 2007, 04:53 PM	#1
BradD Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 327	Which Birch Kit? I'm in the market for a new studio kit in the next few months. I've had my eyes set on either a Yamaha Recording Custom or Birch Absolute for awhile. I must admit that none of the local music stores have one to play, so my interest is largely based on reputation/word of mouth. I've been noticing some very good deals lately on Tama Starclassic Performer birch kits. Which of these three birch models would you recommend for a studio kit? Thanks.

6th August 2007, 11:37 PM	#3
jonaknt Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 153	I have a yamaha birch custom absolute kit and it sounds great. nice and punchy. I think C&C Custom Drums makes a birch kit. They're made around Kansas City I think so you should check those out. __________________ Jon Harter www.khmstudios.com

12th August 2007, 02:56 PM	#11
dlmorley Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,880	I have a German made birch Sonor set which I think sounds great.. __________________ New CD "Ghosts" Ursa Major Studios

12th August 2007, 03:11 PM	#12
True North Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 2,361	I own a few drum kits but my favourite toms to record are my Recording Customs. I wouldn't reccomend them if you are looking for a wide open, ringy sound. They would not be appropriate for something like a be-bop type gig. If you are recording any form of contemporary music there is no better set of tom shells. They are extremely easy to tune and you will be able to get usable sounds faster than pretty much any other kit. Snares are a whole other beast, not a huge fan of Recording Custom snares. I can take or leave the kick - it is really great on some applications. Very Puncy but sometimes lacking the depth and 'ooomph' I can get out of other kicks. Stanard issue Yamaha kicks come with a very large hole in the front skin and this doesen't help if you are trying to use the front skin as part of your sound. Hope that helps, cheers __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

6th August 2007, 11:31 PM	#2
BradD Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 327	Anyone?

6th August 2007, 11:55 PM	#4
BradD Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 327	Will do. Thanks, Jon.

12th August 2007, 01:55 AM	#5
meadowz06 Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36	Try and find a set Premier Genista drums. They were Premier's top of the line birch kit. I have a kit and they sound amazing live and at the house. The contruction and quality of the shells is first rate. The inside of the shells are smooth as a babies bottom. Great birch drums. Also try the Yamaha Birch drums.

12th August 2007, 01:56 AM	#6
meadowz06 Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36	Recording Customs are hard to beat. They have probably been used on more records than any other drum set in the history of modern recording. Also vintage Gretsch drums are amazing sounding.

12th August 2007, 02:08 AM	#7
chetatkinsdiet Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,473	Don't forget the Tama Superstar kits from the 80s. They're great....destined to become classics/collectables and are still somewhat of a bargain in the used market. m

12th August 2007, 02:42 PM	#9
WannaBStudioNut Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oz Posts: 43	You cant go past the Yamaha Recording Customs! I've been playing them since i started playing drums. Long time! They just ooze out MOJO everytime!! That why i have a few of them! Failing that, my Gretsch Broardkaster does sound Fat too.

12th August 2007, 07:55 PM	#13
studjo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,857	I still love the Recording Custom and almost all drummers who recorded at my place used that kit in the end All that said - the kick of the Yamaha Absolute kicks major butt. I'd check those for sure. Jo __________________ www.myspace.com/studjo1

12th August 2007, 08:34 PM	#14
BradD Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 327	Thanks guys. I think I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for the best deal on a set of used Recording Customs or Birch Customs I can find.

16th August 2007, 04:52 PM	#15
Superdrumskills Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pleasant Grove Utah US Posts: 55	i have a C&C kit and they are great its maple not birch but they make amazing drums and are really good to work with

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