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Old 30th July 2007   #1
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Arrow Double kick pedals that can be centered?

The old DW 5000 double pedal on my kit has never lined up well with so that the beater of the main pedal (and 2nd pedal) hits the center of the kick drum head. Even when disconnected from the 2nd pedal, it doesn't quite line up with the center of the kick.

Since I've had this pedal for 15+ years, chances are there's a more adjustable pedal available by now. I'm looking for one that'll perform single pedal duties equally as well as a single pedal, but that can be connected to another pedal to make it a double.

Also, are there any double pedals with beaters shaped to somehow "go around" one another, so that they can both hit closer to the center? That would be very useful.

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May I ask why?

I cant think there would be that much difference in the sound hitting the drumhead slightly off center - would there?

Im not a drummer so what do I know.

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May I ask why?

I cant think there would be that much difference in the sound hitting the drumhead slightly off center - would there?
There is a difference. The attack sounds less impacting and you get more of a "tonal" hit when the beater strikes about 2 inches off center. The hit sounds more controlled and distinct when it's dead center.
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they dont make a pedals that both beaters hit the center of the bass drum though that would be interesting to see, i hear from alot of metal drummers that the axis pedals are way adjustable and the boards on them are super long so you can play faster, also the tama iron cobra is way smooth, i use dw 7000 there are so many,


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Thanks for the reply. When I tried the Axis (just in the store), it didn't feel substantial enough underfoot, but they are well-engineered and highly adjustable. I did like the Iron Cobra and yes it is very smooth.

The old dw5000 I'm using has an axle and socket issue, and a footboard/chain issue which both makes noise. It's about time to get something new, I think.
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Depending on your use, if you're into something new, this might be an idea ******//www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...7&src=3SOSWXXA

Theres this other brand that sells these too but I dont think they are of that good quality.

With Axis, your left beater is fairly 'off' center and the hoop clamp isnt the best either. I use A longboards myself and Tama Iron Cobras. I've noticed the Iron cobra is strong but it goes sour fairly quick (stuff goes loose and soforth). But I guess thats somethign you get with all pedals.

I cant think of pedals right now that give you a dead center hit, to be honest. Theres always an in or two spacing between the beaters
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I cant think of pedals right now that give you a dead center hit, to be honest. Theres always an in or two spacing between the beaters
Yeah, the beaters on that Sonor would be the closest to both hitting the center that I've seen. That's a very innovative pedal and would open up many creative possibilities.

Don't know how I would swing the price, though. For less money, I could order a 2nd kick and buy a new single pedal, although the creative possibilities would be less. I'm always impressed by Sonor hardware, not to mention their drums.
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i also know trick makes a pedal that i have heard is very well engineered everything i have seen from them is very good though i have not heard much does any one know? though they look like the beaters are spaced pretty far apart this might be a good pedal just wondering?

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Not that you're likely to find one, but a Sleishman twin pedal would probably be as close as you'll get.

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I have an original Double Iron Cobra that rocks, but I rarely play double bass. It easily centers up though.

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Not that you're likely to find one, but a Sleishman twin pedal would probably be as close as you'll get.

Wow. very funky design! It looks like something from a 50's sci-fi movie.
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I have an Iron Cobra pedal and cant stand it for double bass playing. I find that the left pedal does not respond the same as the righ side and is sluggish due to the extra weight of the bar.
I am currently upgrading my kit and returning to 2 bass drums and 2 pedals as having the "true" setup with 2 bass drums is about the same cost as the Iron Cobra/axis cost.
just my 2 cents
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Don't know how I would swing the price, though. For less money, I could order a 2nd kick and buy a new single pedal, although the creative possibilities would be less. I'm always impressed by Sonor hardware, not to mention their drums.
No, could get a smaller sized kick and up/down tune it. More options!
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