Alesis D4 and D5 drum replacement

lucey · 27th December 2006

A drummer friend is trying to blend acoustic drums recorded onto analog tape with D5 samples ...

Can the D4/D5 units be triggered directly from analog tape?

many thanks, I have no clue ...

Slipperman · 27th December 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucey

A drummer friend is trying to blend acoustic drums recorded onto analog tape with D5 samples ...

Can the D4/D5 units be triggered directly from analog tape?

many thanks, I have no clue ...

Yes.

The WISDOM of going thru whatcha gotta go thru to get the results yer gonna get is a whole udder story.

Just a dreadful way of 'sample replacement/reinforcement' for a vast array of reasons.

Can be done. Did it for years.

God help me.

SM.

lucey · 27th December 2006

thanks ... I was feeling that already.

Bob Ross · 8th January 2007

I mixed an album 2 or 3 years ago that used an Alesis DM5 for kick replacement on 75% of the tunes, and it was pretty trivial. Had to calculate the offset to compensate for trigger-to-MIDI delay, but once I arrived at a figure that sounded tight on one tune (ISTR it was around 50 frames), that same offset worked fine for every other tune. No problems with false triggering, dynamics sounded plausible. I'd do it again if I had to.

TeReKeTe · 9th January 2007

you can do it. it ain't fun. plug-ins are much more user-friendly.

i'll sell ya my d4 if'n ya want.

lucey · 9th January 2007

I talked them out of it, but thanks for the info thumbsup

matskull · 10th August 2009

So you can't trigger a drum with a D4, DM5 or DMPro without recording the result on another track and moving it to compensate for the latency?

Is there anything out there that works better and doesn't cost a fortune?

matskull · 10th August 2009

Anybody?

27th December 2006	#1
lucey Gear Guru Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 12,407 Thread Starter	Alesis D4 and D5 drum replacement A drummer friend is trying to blend acoustic drums recorded onto analog tape with D5 samples ... Can the D4/D5 units be triggered directly from analog tape? many thanks, I have no clue ... __________________ Brian Lucey Magic Garden Mastering Dr. John, The Shins, The Black Keys, OAR, David Lynch, Sami Yusuf, moe., Sigur Ros Spiral Groove Studio One - mixing monitors

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8th January 2007	#4
Bob Ross Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 2,639	I mixed an album 2 or 3 years ago that used an Alesis DM5 for kick replacement on 75% of the tunes, and it was pretty trivial. Had to calculate the offset to compensate for trigger-to-MIDI delay, but once I arrived at a figure that sounded tight on one tune (ISTR it was around 50 frames), that same offset worked fine for every other tune. No problems with false triggering, dynamics sounded plausible. I'd do it again if I had to.

9th January 2007	#5
TeReKeTe Gear nut Joined: Mar 2004 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 124	you can do it. it ain't fun. plug-ins are much more user-friendly. i'll sell ya my d4 if'n ya want.

10th August 2009	#7
matskull Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,764	So you can't trigger a drum with a D4, DM5 or DMPro without recording the result on another track and moving it to compensate for the latency? Is there anything out there that works better and doesn't cost a fortune?