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Just tried VST Connect: impressed!

I just wanted to share with you guys my experience with VST Connect.

I think that it is a neglected feature up to now. I tried it two days ago. Recorded in my studio in UK a performer that was based in another country. He didn't even have to fire up a DAW, he just downloaded the free application, plugged his microphone in and I was able to record perfectly!
What's more I could apply reverb eq and compression for him to monitor.

This is completely revolutionary if you ask me. No other DAW is able to do that and the fact that only the recording engineer has to own Cubase 7 opens the possibility to record virtually everyone in the world who has a stable Internet connection.

Kudos to Steinberg for that! I never thought it would work that well!
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in which quality does the app record??
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I recorded at 44.1khz/24bit. I don't recall the app having quality options. I guess the quality is determined by the audio interface settings of the performer/ recording engineer. I can confirm I recorded at this quality however so it works!
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I recorded at 44.1khz/24bit. I don't recall the app having quality options. I guess the quality is determined by the audio interface settings of the performer/ recording engineer. I can confirm I recorded at this quality however so it works!
thanks!
any dropouts or latency issues?
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Cool One of these days I'll fire it up
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oioi time to get the old crew back together even tho we are all over the country ....sounds good to me
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I recorded at 44.1khz/24bit.
Your recording quality is going to be dictated by your connection but you're not going to get full bandwidth WAV out of it. Maybe 320 kbit/sec on a good connection, much like using ISDN for voiceover work which tops out at MP2/256k.
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Your recording quality is going to be dictated by your connection but you're not going to get full bandwidth WAV out of it. Maybe 320 kbit/sec on a good connection, much like using ISDN for voiceover work which tops out at MP2/256k.
Did you find sufficient information about that? From what I understand the whole point is that you get latency while pressing record which is then compensated for the performer so he can play in sync with the playback. Then everything is transfered to you with buffering. So basically both sides have buffering going on but it is not noticeable because it's being compensated. That means the singer might sing a word which will arrive to you 10 seconds later but everything seems to be in sync on both sides.

The only reason to find out is to record at 96khz I guess although this would be overkill. The wav file I recorded does seem like it's full bandwidth though. I cannot fully analyze it right now but frequencies seem intact up to 20khz, which does not suggest mp3 quality (even if it was it would be 320 kbit at least).
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Did you find sufficient information about that?
I read a reply from Fredo on the Cubase forum stating what I answered with and I know that the current best in the business, Source Connect, is not full bandwidth. To the best of my knowledge no one has yet achieved the holy grail of full bandwidth audio in a connection such as this. If Steinberg have achieved it then I would be quite (happily) surprised. John.
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I read a reply from Fredo on the Cubase forum stating what I answered with and I know that the current best in the business, Source Connect, is not full bandwidth. To the best of my knowledge no one has yet achieved the holy grail of full bandwidth audio in a connection such as this. If Steinberg have achieved it then I would be quite (happily) surprised. John.
This is interesting. I would be interested to know what's going in about that. The manual for VST Connect does not mention this in detail. That said, the quality of the wav that I recorded does not seem compromised, at least for a 44.1 kHz wav.
I think we will soon find out more info when the dust settles.
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I don't see why monitoring has to be full bandwidth quality so long as the recorded file is (and that can be transferred over asynchronously). Does it work like that?
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you can set bandwith for both directions with the VST Connect SE in the settings menu.. default setting is 128 kb/s ......
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I don't see why monitoring has to be full bandwidth quality so long as the recorded file is (and that can be transferred over asynchronously). Does it work like that?
In parallel the performer could record his performance and send the full resolution file later on.
But the beauty of VST connect is, that you have the recording immediately in your Cubase project.
Being based in northern Germany, I had a small test session with a Sax player in.... drum roll... GREECE!
I hit record, she played, there it was. Awesome... endless possibilities...
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In parallel the performer could record his performance and send the full resolution file later on.
But the beauty of VST connect is, that you have the recording immediately in your Cubase project.
Being based in northern Germany, I had a small test session with a Sax player in.... drum roll... GREECE!
I hit record, she played, there it was. Awesome... endless possibilities...
That's really interesting. My performer was also in Greece! hahaha
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That's really interesting. My performer was also in Greece! hahaha
Also Greece? Funny indeed.
Btw., she is not based in a mayor or large city but in very small village at the coast. No supermarket and the post has to be picked up in another village miles away. I mean, THAT small. But they have internet und suddenly it doesn't matter where you live to create music together.
Interesting times...
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Couldn't get it to work. Got a "session connection lost" message when client attempted to connect.
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Couldn't get it to work. Got a "session connection lost" message when client attempted to connect.
I've heard that most of the problems are related to routers. In order to be safe, both parties should have modern full-featured high-speed routers. Anything older than a couple of years is likely going to give you trouble.
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Connectionopen.com does a better job and They did it on their own! They are also FREE right now!
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Connectionopen.com does a better job and They did it on their own! They are also FREE right now!
What does it mean, a better job? And that they did it on their own?
VST-Connect is directly integrated in Cubase and has proven that it works.
So, what is the advantage, can you be a bit more specific?

Btw., it's free to check their Beta version and if you become a beta-tester for them you will get a discount on the final version. Which is nice but not free.
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