19th November 2012
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#61 | | Lives for gear
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I wonder if the HP Z820's BIOS has been optimized for Audio Application such as Cubase ?
I was told that their BIOS settings can not be modified (It's locked). So, there is no way to improve/optimize the HP Z820's performance for DAWs.
Any clue if this is the case at this time ?
Thanks,
Muziksculp
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19th November 2012
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#62 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by muziksculp I wonder if the HP Z820's BIOS has been optimized for Audio Application such as Cubase ?
I was told that their BIOS settings can not be modified (It's locked). So, there is no way to improve/optimize the HP Z820's performance for DAWs.
Any clue if this is the case at this time ?
Thanks,
Muziksculp | I can't tell you about the Z-820. My Z-210 is not locked, but it is also not like the Asus motherboard BIOSes that seemed to be aimed at over-clockers and other tweakers. I don't know what you need to optimize in the BIOS for Cubase. I don't recall having to change anything for Samplitude/Sequoia. Even the OS tweaks were minimal.
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19th November 2012
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#63 | | Lives for gear
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Who says they are really optimized? Probably a combi deal. Marketing etc.
RGH
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21st November 2012
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#64 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Roger Starr Who says they are really optimized? Probably a combi deal. Marketing etc.
RGH | It would be great if Steinberg would strike a special deal with HP to offer audio-optimized versions of the HP Z830 workstations. (Bios tweaked for audio performance, very low latency, and over-clocked to offer faster processing).
I don't think the Z830 is specially optimized for audio production by HP. Since they are also used for other applications such as video/Post/graphic design/animation/....etc.
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21st November 2012
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#65 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by muziksculp It would be great if Steinberg would strike a special deal with HP to offer audio-optimized versions of the HP Z830 workstations. (Bios tweaked for audio performance, very low latency, and over-clocked to offer faster processing).
I don't think the Z830 is specially optimized for audio production by HP. Since they are also used for other applications such as video/Post/graphic design/animation/....etc. | There really isn't that much to optimize. If there are no DPC latency peaks, it should be fine. I've worked on quite a few PT rigs running on the HP Z series. They work well.
As for over-clocking, HP won't go down that route . It doesn't make any sense in their world.
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26th November 2012
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#66 | | Gear nut
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One question guys,
I´m thinking of a new build, got a i7 920 at the moment.
Are the XEON´s still so much faster than the newest Sandy-E´s ?
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26th November 2012
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#67 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by submarin One question guys,
I´m thinking of a new build, got a i7 920 at the moment.
Are the XEON´s still so much faster than the newest Sandy-E´s ? | nope never have been, the Xeons are sandy E same exact processors.
unless you buy 2 x 3.1GHz a single 6 core will beat it.
Scott
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27th November 2012
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#68 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by jcschild nope never have been, the Xeons are sandy E same exact processors.
unless you buy 2 x 3.1GHz a single 6 core will beat it.
Scott
ADK | Thanks Scott, good to know!!
I was wondering, why HP still puts them into their machines and why they are more expensive than Sandy´s..
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29th November 2012
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#69 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by submarin I was wondering, why HP still puts them into their machines and why they are more expensive than Sandy´s.. | Well for one the Xeons can be used in multi-processor setups (and thus have the QPI links enabled). Regular Sandy Bridge-E's like the Core i7 38/39XX can't. (Sandy Bridge-E is the architecture name, not the processor name).
Alistair
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29th November 2012
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#70 | | Lives for DAWs
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Originally Posted by submarin Thanks Scott, good to know!!
I was wondering, why HP still puts them into their machines and why they are more expensive than Sandy´s.. | Many professional workstation boards do not support consumer CPU's, one of the reasons we build with Xeons.
However, that can't be an argument for HP.
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26th December 2012
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#71 | | Gear addict
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HP?? Wth!! Worst computers. My friend works at a computer store, hps get returned, repaired most than any computer. And i had bad experience with hp pavilion and laptops. Why in the world would steinberg support HP???
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26th December 2012
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#72 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by muziksculp It would be great if Steinberg would strike a special deal with HP to offer audio-optimized versions of the HP Z830 workstations. | Nooooo, please nooooo. not HorrorPc
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30th December 2012
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#73 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by TS-12 Nooooo, please nooooo. not HorrorPc | I was not aware that HP stands for Horror PC !
Are they really ?
Don't HP cater their top of the line Workstations to Professionals ? How bad can they be ?
I'm kind of surprised by your comment. Is your friend that works at a music store referring to HP-Workstations, or economy grade commercial/consumer general purpose HP laptops ?
They are two very different type of products , and Yes, HP makes both high and low end machines, they are very different product lines.
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31st December 2012
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#74 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by muziksculp I was not aware that HP stands for Horror PC !
Are they really ?
Don't HP cater their top of the line Workstations to Professionals ? How bad can they be ?
I'm kind of surprised by your comment. Is your friend that works at a music store referring to HP-Workstations, or economy grade commercial/consumer general purpose HP laptops ?
They are two very different type of products , and Yes, HP makes both high and low end machines, they are very different product lines. | not so sure about "high end" HP. but definitely on the consumer HPs and All Laptops
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31st December 2012
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#75 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by TS-12 My friend works at a computer store, hps get returned, repaired most than any computer. | Not surprising as they have the largest PC market share.
Alistair
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1st January 2013
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#76 | | Gear addict
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Am I correct that Xeons can't be overclocked ? Anyone know ?
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1st January 2013
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#77 | | Lives for gear
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NOPE they are locked down plus no board that has the tweak options for that
however i did see EVGA did release a board and they were the only ones last time that you could OC Xeons with.
but with the chips locked hmm wont get much out of it
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