Cubase 7 How Do You Like Me Now?

[Yutaka]

Originally Posted by shanabit

Dont count on it. Cubase is never optimized on the Mac.

Here ya go :

www.steinberg.net • View topic - Bulletproof ASIO-Guard - Is this what I've been waiting for?

Exactly, it adds buffers to playback tracks (tracks that are not input-monitored). Especially under OS X this leads to improved performance!

Cheers,
Helge

[Roger Starr]

Originally Posted by Yutaka

Here ya go :

www.steinberg.net • View topic - Bulletproof ASIO-Guard - Is this what I've been waiting for?

This is cool. I wonder how much the improvement will be and how much it will be on compared to LogicPro.

RGH

[trock]

yup this was under the radar some, but now we know it will work better on MAC

SWEET

man, they knocked this out of the park

[faskatt]

Looks nice. Like the channel strip idea, but a implementation of Waves NLS or Slate VCC on every channel would be even better.

[trock]

they talked about opening it up to third party plugs for the channel strip so maybe in an update

[popmann]

I think they should change the name since there's a common theme to all the new features...might I suggest NoobTools?

Fonzi, don't put on the water skis....there are sharks in them thar waters...

[faskatt]

Originally Posted by trock

they talked about opening it up to third party plugs for the channel strip so maybe in an update

If that's the case it's definitely a nice thing, and something i felt was missing in the earlier versions.

[shanabit]

Originally Posted by Yutaka

Here ya go :

www.steinberg.net • View topic - Bulletproof ASIO-Guard - Is this what I've been waiting for?

So its adding buffers to playback tracks. tell me how this is going to lower the buffer setting when using VST's ? Higher buffers = higher latency.

Im confused Im sure. ASIO is not CoreAudio

[wakestyle]

Originally Posted by 4damind

Timing is very good in Cubase...

Except for recording MIDI. There is dozens of long threads about this all over the internet. SB has stated they were working on it but I don't see a mention of it. If it is addressed it would likely not be mentioned in the marketing campaign I figure.... "Oh and we fixed the midi recording issues"...

[Miles Flint]

Yes, sidechaining was available looooong time ago in Cubase ...

I was doing this with a "Quaddro-Track" and plugins such as the Voxengo Crunchessor or others!

As another member mentioned too, I absolutely don't like the look of the new mixer. Personally!
I was happy the moment the mixer turned into a "pro-like" look, now this..?!? Come on! That's playmobil, sorry

Was thinking about to jump on another DAW the last months, now this makes my decision easy. I WAS a huge CB fan for years!

[Jeff Hayat]

Originally Posted by rednas

How much for the upgrade from 5 to 7? More than 200 would be a no-go for me

I have been told this morning by a SB employee that 5 > 7 will be $249.

Cheers.

[emitsweet]

What about the speed of 7? has it been improved since v5?
I'm still on Cubase 4.5 due to the poor performance of the 'updated' audio engine used since v5.

[tomteontour]

Originally Posted by shanabit

So its adding buffers to playback tracks. tell me how this is going to lower the buffer setting when using VST's ? Higher buffers = higher latency.

Im confused Im sure. ASIO is not CoreAudio

Any Chance Cubase will EVER Support CoreAudio for good Mac Performance ? Mac Pro User here with Cubase.. but always wondered if Logic would have been more performant

[Gear Geek]

The bullet proof guard is simply running your project at a higher latency then what is selected in your soundcard just like Logic and Protools 10 does. Armed tracks for midi will run at your regular latency settings. Steinberg is just putting a fancy term on it. At least they seem to allow the option to turn it off unlike Protools and Logic.

[zephonic]

Serious HewlettPackard endorsement. That can't be good for the DAW builders.

ASIOguard? What? From the description I don't really get how it does it, but I do know it is sorely needed on the OSX side of things. I can have a project all in memory (ie. no disk streaming) with 25% CPU usage but the ASIO meter bucks up and down like a yo-yo.

It's definitely its Achilles' heel.

[bace]

Originally Posted by djcrugoo

These updates will be available from December 5, 2012, as boxed versions at your local dealer and as download and boxed versions through the Steinberg Online Shop. Update prices will be 149 and 199 euros from Cubase 6.5 / Cubase 6, respectively, and 99 and149 euros from Cubase Artist 6.5 / Cubase Artist 6, respectively. These prices include German VAT.

Thanks for choosing Cubase!

Helge Vogt
Product Marketing Manager Cubase
Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH

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[Yutaka]

Originally Posted by shanabit

So its adding buffers to playback tracks. tell me how this is going to lower the buffer setting when using VST's ? Higher buffers = higher latency.

Im confused Im sure. ASIO is not CoreAudio

Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?

[Aiyn Zahav]

Originally Posted by Yutaka

Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?

How does it compare to Samplitude's hybrid engine?

[bace]

Originally Posted by Yutaka

Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?

Why would it only be good for OSX? I think this is the best new feature if it works!

[jmcecil]

Originally Posted by Football

Their website barely is working for me so it's hard to tell so far...

you nickeled and dimed yourself. Steinberg just offered upgrades.

[Luke44]

Just to recap...


Cubase 4 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 5 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 6 to 7 : 199 $/Euros

Cubase 6.5 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6.5 to 7 : 99 $/Euros


so if youre on Cubase 4 or 5 right now, grab the update to 6.5 and save yourself 50 dollars!

[shanabit]

Originally Posted by Yutaka

Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?

Thanks, that makes sense. Ive never pushed Logic to be honest but I do see a diff in performance between the two

[crypticglobe]

Originally Posted by muziksculp

Steinberg is still missing out on having a Pro-Quality Control-Surface for Cubase 7.

A new controller, with 8 faders, solid feel, and lots of control buttons/knobs, Jog-Wheel, nice and clear LCD readouts, ...etc. ...etc. at a reasonable price.

That's one thing that I would add to my studio setup. Currently, I use my Motif XF 7 Workstation/Keyboard as a remote controller for Cubase 6.5, so far a decent option, since I also use the Motif XF for its sounds, and as my main keyboard controller. But... A dedicated Pro-Quality controller for Cubendo that would appeal to the non-post production focused studio would be a big welcome here.

The current Steinberg CMC controllers just don't do it for me.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

You mean like this????

NUAGE | DAW Systems | Products | Yamaha

Nuage System Solution

[crypticglobe]

Just for the record... I FREAKING LOVE THIS UPDATE!!!! OMG!! So much of the stuff we have asked for is in here!!! And then so much more... love, love, love, love!!

[janjaal]

i bought cubase 6.5 on october 23rd 2012
i'm so pissed.

[Jeff Hayat]

Originally Posted by Luke44

Just to recap...


Cubase 4 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 5 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 6 to 7 : 199 $/Euros

Cubase 6.5 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6.5 to 7 : 99 $/Euros


so if youre on Cubase 4 or 5 right now, grab the update to 6.5 and save yourself 50 dollars!

No - to the last statement. If you are on 5 (like me), you have to pay to go from 5 > 6, and then again from 6 > 6.5 (that was a paid upgrade), then get the update to 7 for free. I believe it works out the same either way, but it's definitely not cheaper.

Cheers.

[janjaal]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hayat

No - to the last statement. If you are on 5 (like me), you have to pay to go from 5 > 6, and then again from 6 > 6.5 (that was a paid upgrade), then get the update to 7 for free. I believe it works out the same either way, but it's definitely not cheaper.

Cheers.

no u can't upgrade from 5 to 6..
u can only upgrade from 5 straight to 6.5

[muziksculp]

Originally Posted by bace

Why would it only be good for OSX? I think this is the best new feature if it works!

Why would they have a great new feature that doesn't work.

I'm sure it works great

Looking forward to Cubase 7

[bace]

Originally Posted by muziksculp

Why would they have a great new feature that doesn't work.

I'm sure it works great

Looking forward to Cubase 7

Over the history of cubase many features need a few updates before it works good. I suspect with this heavy load of new features there will be a lot of new bugs that need to be fixed. So i dont see why this feature would be different.

[tritace]

First thing I noticed "The completely new MixConsole excels not only in terms of usability, look and feel, but also sounds better than anything before it! " Are we just going to agree that Cubase 7 sounds better than version 6 or is it time for some null tests (only joking, I dont even know how to do a null test)

But the main thing is....im scared. It looks compleatly different, and they seem to have gone back to an integrated channel strip of VST 5. The strip has to be of Waves quality, or its a waste of time. Also, I coudnt see where the 3rd party plug ins go..Its too much too quick..