Cubase 7 How Do You Like Me Now?
Old 14th November 2012
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"The Update from Cubase 4/5 is 249 Euro!

Cheers,
Helge"

source : www.steinberg.net • View topic - Cubase 5 Upgrade


so im pretty sure its cheaper to jump to 6.5 now and get the free update to 7..
Indeed...but would Steinberg allow that?
Old 14th November 2012
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If its better on the mac than 4/5/6 than im throwing logic away.
Ive been a long time cubase user on the PC.
Moved to logic only because of terrible cubase performance
On the mac.
Dont count on it. Cubase is never optimized on the Mac.
Old 14th November 2012
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Old 14th November 2012
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Old 14th November 2012
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yup this was under the radar some, but now we know it will work better on MAC

SWEET

man, they knocked this out of the park
Old 14th November 2012
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Looks nice. Like the channel strip idea, but a implementation of Waves NLS or Slate VCC on every channel would be even better.
Old 14th November 2012
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they talked about opening it up to third party plugs for the channel strip so maybe in an update
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Old 14th November 2012
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I think they should change the name since there's a common theme to all the new features...might I suggest NoobTools?

Fonzi, don't put on the water skis....there are sharks in them thar waters...
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Old 14th November 2012
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they talked about opening it up to third party plugs for the channel strip so maybe in an update
If that's the case it's definitely a nice thing, and something i felt was missing in the earlier versions.
Old 14th November 2012
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Old 14th November 2012
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Timing is very good in Cubase...
Except for recording MIDI. There is dozens of long threads about this all over the internet. SB has stated they were working on it but I don't see a mention of it. If it is addressed it would likely not be mentioned in the marketing campaign I figure.... "Oh and we fixed the midi recording issues"...
Old 14th November 2012
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Yes, sidechaining was available looooong time ago in Cubase ...

I was doing this with a "Quaddro-Track" and plugins such as the Voxengo Crunchessor or others!

As another member mentioned too, I absolutely don't like the look of the new mixer. Personally!
I was happy the moment the mixer turned into a "pro-like" look, now this..?!? Come on! That's playmobil, sorry

Was thinking about to jump on another DAW the last months, now this makes my decision easy. I WAS a huge CB fan for years!
Old 14th November 2012
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How much for the upgrade from 5 to 7? More than 200 would be a no-go for me
I have been told this morning by a SB employee that 5 > 7 will be $249.

Cheers.
Old 14th November 2012
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What about the speed of 7? has it been improved since v5?
I'm still on Cubase 4.5 due to the poor performance of the 'updated' audio engine used since v5.
Old 14th November 2012
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So its adding buffers to playback tracks. tell me how this is going to lower the buffer setting when using VST's ? Higher buffers = higher latency.

Im confused Im sure. ASIO is not CoreAudio
Any Chance Cubase will EVER Support CoreAudio for good Mac Performance ? Mac Pro User here with Cubase.. but always wondered if Logic would have been more performant
Old 14th November 2012
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The bullet proof guard is simply running your project at a higher latency then what is selected in your soundcard just like Logic and Protools 10 does. Armed tracks for midi will run at your regular latency settings. Steinberg is just putting a fancy term on it. At least they seem to allow the option to turn it off unlike Protools and Logic.
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Old 14th November 2012
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Serious HewlettPackard endorsement. That can't be good for the DAW builders.

ASIOguard? What? From the description I don't really get how it does it, but I do know it is sorely needed on the OSX side of things. I can have a project all in memory (ie. no disk streaming) with 25% CPU usage but the ASIO meter bucks up and down like a yo-yo.

It's definitely its Achilles' heel.
Old 14th November 2012
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These updates will be available from December 5, 2012, as boxed versions at your local dealer and as download and boxed versions through the Steinberg Online Shop. Update prices will be 149 and 199 euros from Cubase 6.5 / Cubase 6, respectively, and 99 and149 euros from Cubase Artist 6.5 / Cubase Artist 6, respectively. These prices include German VAT.

Thanks for choosing Cubase!

Helge Vogt
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Old 14th November 2012
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So its adding buffers to playback tracks. tell me how this is going to lower the buffer setting when using VST's ? Higher buffers = higher latency.

Im confused Im sure. ASIO is not CoreAudio
Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?
Old 14th November 2012
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Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?
How does it compare to Samplitude's hybrid engine?
Old 14th November 2012
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Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?
Why would it only be good for OSX? I think this is the best new feature if it works!
Old 14th November 2012
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Their website barely is working for me so it's hard to tell so far...
you nickeled and dimed yourself. Steinberg just offered upgrades.
Old 14th November 2012
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Upgrade pricing

Just to recap...


Cubase 4 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 5 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 6 to 7 : 199 $/Euros

Cubase 6.5 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6.5 to 7 : 99 $/Euros


so if youre on Cubase 4 or 5 right now, grab the update to 6.5 and save yourself 50 dollars!
Old 14th November 2012
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Logic uses a hybrid buffer system where all the tracks that are not in record ready status would operate with buffer @ 1024 samples, while the armed tracks would be in whatever latency buffer you set it to.

Cubase on the other hand had the buffer set universally for the playback and recording. If you had a 24 track project @ 64 sample buffer, and you had 2 tracks armed, Logic would have 2 tracks monitored at 64 sample buffer, 22 others @ 1024 samples. Cubase would have all 24 @ 64 samples.

Cubase 7 employs a similar hybrid buffer system as Logic, so it'll perform better than how it did with the past versions on Mac. Would that make sense?
Thanks, that makes sense. Ive never pushed Logic to be honest but I do see a diff in performance between the two
Old 14th November 2012
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Steinberg is still missing out on having a Pro-Quality Control-Surface for Cubase 7.

A new controller, with 8 faders, solid feel, and lots of control buttons/knobs, Jog-Wheel, nice and clear LCD readouts, ...etc. ...etc. at a reasonable price.

That's one thing that I would add to my studio setup. Currently, I use my Motif XF 7 Workstation/Keyboard as a remote controller for Cubase 6.5, so far a decent option, since I also use the Motif XF for its sounds, and as my main keyboard controller. But... A dedicated Pro-Quality controller for Cubendo that would appeal to the non-post production focused studio would be a big welcome here.

The current Steinberg CMC controllers just don't do it for me.

Cheers,
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Old 14th November 2012
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Just for the record... I FREAKING LOVE THIS UPDATE!!!! OMG!! So much of the stuff we have asked for is in here!!! And then so much more... love, love, love, love!!
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Old 14th November 2012
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i bought cubase 6.5 on october 23rd 2012
i'm so pissed.
Old 14th November 2012
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Just to recap...


Cubase 4 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 5 to 7 : 249 $/Euros

Cubase 6 to 7 : 199 $/Euros

Cubase 6.5 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6 to 7 : 149 $/Euros

Artist 6.5 to 7 : 99 $/Euros


so if youre on Cubase 4 or 5 right now, grab the update to 6.5 and save yourself 50 dollars!
No - to the last statement. If you are on 5 (like me), you have to pay to go from 5 > 6, and then again from 6 > 6.5 (that was a paid upgrade), then get the update to 7 for free. I believe it works out the same either way, but it's definitely not cheaper.

Cheers.
Old 14th November 2012
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No - to the last statement. If you are on 5 (like me), you have to pay to go from 5 > 6, and then again from 6 > 6.5 (that was a paid upgrade), then get the update to 7 for free. I believe it works out the same either way, but it's definitely not cheaper.

Cheers.
no u can't upgrade from 5 to 6..
u can only upgrade from 5 straight to 6.5
Old 14th November 2012
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Why would it only be good for OSX? I think this is the best new feature if it works!
Why would they have a great new feature that doesn't work.

I'm sure it works great

Looking forward to Cubase 7
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