To Ed tracking Elec. gtr.

tubehead · 23rd November 2005, 03:35 AM

Ed, I've read that you don't really double track gtrs too often anymore. How do you track elec. gtrs. these days? 1 mic, 2 or 3 in close proximity and what mics?

Thanks.

Ed Cherney · 28th November 2005, 10:20 PM

Hi Tubehead......I have used 2, 3, 4 and more microphones at once.....lately, I just try to get the amp sounding right and use a Royer 121 about 6 inches off of the speaker, and that seems to be working....unless we're really looking for something odder than just the sound of the amp.
best,
ed

tubehead · 29th November 2005, 04:00 AM

Thanks for the reply Ed. :) I love your work! What volume are you usally tracking at with that Royer; how many db's can it take? Or do you record at elec. gtr at very low volumes? Do you use Attenuators on the amps or just low wattage amps cranked up?

kellyd · 29th November 2005, 04:15 PM

Hi Ed, was wondering when you use a single 121 are you usually dead center to the speaker for placement or do you do the cone seam. I've found when I use both a 121 and a 57 I go for 3 and 9:00 at the seam for placement but when I use only the 121 I have to place it dead center for more hi end. Also do you angle the mic slightly or straight up? Thanks. Kelly.

Ed Cherney · 30th November 2005, 10:19 PM

I try to just get the amp sounding good in the room. Obviously, if it's too loud it's going to ruin the mic. Sometimes I'll use a power soak, or something else between the amp and speaker to **** it up. If the musician is playing near his amp in the room, he will usually set the volume to where it works the best.

Kellyd.....when placing the mic, here is something that you may want to try. Plug the guitar chord into the head, put your thumb on the tip, so that it makes the amp buzz. Then, cup your ear with your other hand, stick your head near the speaker and move it around. You will hear a place where the hum becomes bigger and fuller.....and that's where I try to put the mic.
ed

30th November 2005, 10:30 PM

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when placing the mic, here is something that you may want to try. Plug the guitar chord into the head, put your thumb on the tip, so that it makes the amp buzz. Then, cup your ear with your other hand, stick your head near the speaker and move it around. You will hear a place where the hum becomes bigger and fuller.....and that's where I try to put the mic.

THANK YOU!!!!
For posting here AND
The tip that may save my hearing yet!

Beutiful!

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tubehead · 1st December 2005, 12:28 AM

Ed, that's a sweet tip; no pun. :)

Inner Light · 1st December 2005, 09:03 PM

wow this is an awesome tip ! thanks

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23rd November 2005, 03:35 AM	#1
tubehead Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Encinitas / San Diego Posts: 298	To Ed tracking Elec. gtr. Ed, I've read that you don't really double track gtrs too often anymore. How do you track elec. gtrs. these days? 1 mic, 2 or 3 in close proximity and what mics? Thanks.

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28th November 2005, 10:20 PM	#2
Ed Cherney Guest Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	Hi Tubehead......I have used 2, 3, 4 and more microphones at once.....lately, I just try to get the amp sounding right and use a Royer 121 about 6 inches off of the speaker, and that seems to be working....unless we're really looking for something odder than just the sound of the amp. best, ed

29th November 2005, 04:00 AM	#3
tubehead Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Encinitas / San Diego Posts: 298	Thanks for the reply Ed. :) I love your work! What volume are you usally tracking at with that Royer; how many db's can it take? Or do you record at elec. gtr at very low volumes? Do you use Attenuators on the amps or just low wattage amps cranked up?

29th November 2005, 04:15 PM	#4
kellyd Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 947	Hi Ed, was wondering when you use a single 121 are you usually dead center to the speaker for placement or do you do the cone seam. I've found when I use both a 121 and a 57 I go for 3 and 9:00 at the seam for placement but when I use only the 121 I have to place it dead center for more hi end. Also do you angle the mic slightly or straight up? Thanks. Kelly.

30th November 2005, 10:19 PM	#5
Ed Cherney Guest Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	I try to just get the amp sounding good in the room. Obviously, if it's too loud it's going to ruin the mic. Sometimes I'll use a power soak, or something else between the amp and speaker to **** it up. If the musician is playing near his amp in the room, he will usually set the volume to where it works the best. Kellyd.....when placing the mic, here is something that you may want to try. Plug the guitar chord into the head, put your thumb on the tip, so that it makes the amp buzz. Then, cup your ear with your other hand, stick your head near the speaker and move it around. You will hear a place where the hum becomes bigger and fuller.....and that's where I try to put the mic. ed

1st December 2005, 12:28 AM	#7
tubehead Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Encinitas / San Diego Posts: 298	Ed, that's a sweet tip; no pun. :)