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| Viking Join Date: Jul 2005
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| The REAL Story on "Billie Jean"... Recording and Mixing "Billie Jean".... The year is 1982. The song is "Billie Jean". The sonic image of Michael Jacksons' "Billie Jean" is a perfect example of what happened, when I sat around dreaming awhile, about combining different recording techniques to produce a unique musical canvas with a tremendous 'sonic personality'. Of course I was comfortably ensconsed in Westlake Audio’s beautiful new Studio ‘A’ on Beverly Boulevard, with my good friends Quincy Jones, Micheal Jackson and Rod Temperton. We were doing our favorite thing... We were making music!!! We had just started recording Michael Jackson’s album “Thriller”... We were recording Michael’s song “Billie Jean”..... I recorded the drums,(played by the fantastic drummer, N'Dugu) with as tight, and powerful a drum sound as I could come up with. Of course I put N'Dugus' drum set on my plywood drum platform. Also at this time, I had a special kick drum cover made that covers the whole front of the kick drum. There's a slot with a zipper in it that the mike fits through. When the kick drum mike is in place, in the slot in my drum cover, I zip the opening tightly shut around the mike. I brought in my old pal George Massenburgs' spectacular sounding, portable, 12 channel recording console and used it to record the rhythm section. With it I recorded the bass, drums and guitars on my analogue 16 track, with no noise reduction equipment in the way of that fantastic sound! In my estimation, the the result of the song “Billie Jean”, is a perfect example of what I call “Sonic Personality”. I don’t think there are many recordings, where all you need to hear is the first few drums beats, and you instantly know what song it is. Great albums always start with great songs.... "Billie Jean" is just such a superb song! Of course, Michael wrote "Billie Jean".. Quincy says that the lyric that Michael wrote is highly personal. I’m sure that’s true. Michael told us... it was about a girl, that climbed over the wall at Michael’s house, and was lounging out there, by the swimming pool.... she was laying out there, near the pool , lounging... hangin’ out... with shades on, her bathing suit on. One morning she just showed up! Kind of like a stalker, almost. She had accused Michael of being the father of ONE of her twins... Is that possible? I don’t think so.... When it came time for me to mix "Billie Jean", it was business as usual... When I am working with Michael, Quincy, Rod, Jennifer, Sergio and so on..... I am allowed total ceative freedom with the sonics of the music... In other words, I am always left to myself when it is time to mix. My mixes can take hours, days or even weeks.... I firmly believe that a mix is not finished, until it is on a Record for sale at Tower.... So I had been mixing "Billie Jean" for a day or two. I’d do a mix. ..... Say I was up to mix number 2.... (At that time I was mixing onto 1/2” analogue.) I thought it was killer!!! I called MJ, Quincy and Rod into the control room and played mix 2 for them. They loved it!!! They were all dancing and carrying on like crazy!!! Smiles all around! Then Michael slipped out of the control room, turned around and motioned to me to follow him... Then he whispered to me, “Please Bruce, it’s perfect, but turn the Bass up just a tiny bit, and do one more mix, please....” I said to him...”OK Smelly, no problem”... (When we were recording “Off The Wall”, Quincy gave Michael the nickname of “Smelly” because when Michael liked a groove, he’d call it “Smelly Jelly.” Also Michael doesn’t curse, and when MJ wants to say a bad word he’ll simply call it “Smelly”... The name has stuck...) Then I went back into the control room to add Michael’s tiny bit of bass to my mix... Quincy pulled me over into the corner and said “Please Svensk... “(Svensk is Quincy’s nickname for me. It means “Swedish Man” in Swedish... When you have a genuine Quincy Jones nickname like ‘Svensk” - You are truly honored....) Q said to me.... “Add a little garlic salt to the snare and the kick. Just a squirt!!!”) so I went back into the control room and added a little garlic salt to the snare and the kick. Just a squirt!!! Now I was up to mix 20 on "Billie Jean". Well, this went on for about a week. Soon I was up to mix 91!!! I had a stack of 1/2 inch tapes almost to the ceiling!!! I would do a few mixes, we’d listen... Then do a few more. We had it PERFECT!!! We thought we had a really ‘HOT’ mix on “Billie Jean”. I played Mix 91 for the boys... Everybody smiled... but Quincy had one of his funny looks on his face... I thought.... Hmmmm.... Oh, Oh.... Quincy said “You know Svensk, just for the fun of it, can we listen to one of your earlier mixes???” My heart jumped because I knew that my earlier mixes were dynamite!!! Then Quincy said, “Let’s hear mix number 2!!!” Oh WOW!!!! Hallelujah!!! I love mix 2!!!! We listened to mix 2... IT WAS SLAMMIN’!!! EVERYONE IN THE STUDIO WAS GROOVIN’ AND DANCIN’ and HAPPY, and actin’ IGNORANT!!!! Well, here’s the deal. When “Thriller” was released to the Whole World by Epic Records, on Tuesday, November 30, 1982, it went to Tower Records with MIX 2 OF "Billie Jean" on it!!! AND, when the single of "Billie Jean" came out it was MIX 2!!! The REAL Story of "Billie Jean"... Bruce Swedien ![]() |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005
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| Kickass. I have always loved that song. I learned to beat juggle on turntables to the opening few bars of Billie Jean. That flute patch or whatever that sound was is a fantastic touch to a really great song. What is the flute sound ? The cover for the front of the bass drum was made of fabric ? Thank you. |
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| Gear interested Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Erfurt, Germany
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| coool! Dear Bruce, very nice anecdote!! Shows, that you have to go the way to know what's the right thing. What's yur conclusion? Be more spontaneous? There's also this anecdote about the man who wants to buy an umbrella... By the way; very nice music what you did with "Gjallarhorn". Great smell of wood and fresh rasin, that could ONLY be captured by Martin's microphone.. Well done, Svensk.. Boris ![]() |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Germany
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| I guess this won't be possible, but I'd love to listen to Mix 91... (And that's a great story about a great song, of course!) |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Detroit, WHAT!!!
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| Wow...great story man. I love how you let us in on some the small details that makes these great icons seems more like normal people. I love it.... MORE...GIVE ME MORE THRILLER STORIES. Oh yeah, I love how the guitar part within the mix of "Billie Jean." |
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Holland
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| One of the great strories in life is that of the person who went out to find this particulair Lotus flower. He went around the world, had a lot of adventures only to find out that it was growing in his own backyard garden, when he came back. kind of applies tot the Billie Jean mix story....... Mr. Swedien, thank you for your open-ness and inspiring stories ! Laurens (LAU) Kagenaar.
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| Gear maniac | Tremendous! ![]() |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington Il
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| I love that story! ![]()
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad
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| Once, again. PHENONEMAL WORK, Bruce. YOU ARE THE MAN. Thanks for the story.
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| WOW! Thanks for sharing all that stuff with us, Bruce. It's my second visit here - but i guess i will have to skip sleeping this night. I realy have to read through all your posts and words. I have to add that you have an unique style of narrating. It is a pleasure to read through your lines. I am a little out of words to describe what i feel cause my english is so underdeveloped. It is beautifull! It brings so much color in all that geartalkgeartalkgeartalk. Thanks for taking the time to share all your extraordinary experiences with us! Christoph (brandy) Brandes
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Nice VU Meters!!!!! Bruce Swedien ![]() | |
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| I recall hearing Billy Jean on a club system that I was installing right when that LP came out. I was just floored by the sound! I had lived in L.A. about a few years earlier and recall everyone in the biz raving about the "Off the Wall" record. I listened to it and even owned a promo copy (my gf worked at the label Michael was on.) I was still in the "Michael Jackson? Feh! Rockin' Robin." The LP with Billy Jean sounded so much better than anything else at that time. So that's N'dugu playing on that? I never studied it and assumed it was a Linn drum! Such a groove! I guess it takes a cat like N'dugu to get that groove. Danny Brown |
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| Here's a thought that just hit me!!! Here's a thought that just hit me!!! Listen to "Billie Jean" again and think this thought... "Billie Jean" was recorded before the days of Drum and Percussion prerecorded "Samplers and Loops"!!! N'Dugu's drums on "Billie Jean" are one single 'Take' from beginning to end!!! Hmmmmmm..... Bruce ![]() |
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That beat is Archetypical/prototypical..... LAU kagenaar
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| Gear interested | You really did a great job mixing it. I wonder what the other Mixes sounded like though and how different they were. |
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