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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden!
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Thread Starter | Hi again, I've started to make some new traps. Since I made the first traps I have learned a few things so you can say that these new traps are version 2 of the original design. The difference is the framing wood that now have holes cut through them so the effectiveness of the traps will become much better. This, obviously, have made them much lighter but it has also involved much more work. On these pictures I took today you can see the sides getting done. |
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| | #122 |
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Thread Starter | Here are the ready cut framing for two traps. |
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| Gear maniac | Awesome, can't wait to finally work on my DIY acoustic treatment project. Thanks for the update. |
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jax - FL
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| Nice... I'm going to go build a drink in your honor. |
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| | #126 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: St. Louis(Wildwood), MO
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| Nice work. Most people don't take the time to do nicely shaped cutouts like that. That's enough surface area to make a significant difference in the amount of absorbant exposed. Sorry, I'm late to the party and it's too early to have a drink or two - well, maybe a little Kahlua in the coffee.... Bryan
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| | #127 |
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Thread Starter | The drinks are on me! Here's todays progress... The frames have been assembled, and they have been stained. |
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| THat might be a little harder than using a hole saw, but it looks good. I would stain the outside and cover the inside side of the hole with material to keep stuff in.
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| I thought for proper absorbtion/dissipation the traps actually had to be sealed and airtight except for their fronts? |
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| | #132 |
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| You are thinking of sealed panel traps, which are tuned to a certain problem frequency. What he is building is a broad band bass trap which picks up more of the over all frequency range. Glenn
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Thread Starter | So... here are todays work! The fabric is getting stapled and trimmed on the sides. |
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Thread Starter | Here's the finished frames before fitting the insulation. |
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Thread Starter | Picture of the front and the back of the trap filled with 6" of insulation. |
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Thread Starter | Me with a staple gun and a scissor attaching the frontcover. |
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Thread Starter | ...and finally, two selfmade traps ready to be transported to me! ![]() |
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| 500 series nutjob | to cool!!! |
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jax - FL
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| The best bass traps in the world are home made [well the worst too - but that aint the case here]. |
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| Lives for gear | does it really matter what kind of insulation you use? i'm not that familiar with insulation..but what about wall insulation? thats REALLY thick would that work at all? and should you wrap the insulation in some kind of plastic to seal it off? insulation fibers=unhealthy to breath in? i'm getting ready to build m ine..just wondering!! ![]() |
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Thread Starter | Quote:
I have to say that it was much more work too. Cutting those extra holes in the sides wasn't difficult but it took alot more time, I really like the looks of them. I'll hope it will be worth it in the end. On paper you can say that I've got three traps, instead of two, compared to if I have done them as the previous ones. | |
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Thread Starter | Quote:
It does matter which insulation you use. You want to use insulation with high density. If you use fibre glass the density would be from around 45kg/sqr meter to 90kg/sqr meter. If you use stone wool the density would be a little bit higher. If you wrap it in plastic it would still work for low frequencies but all the high frequecies would reflect back to you. I will not say anything about the helth aspect as I'm no doctor. Good luck to you! | |
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| For some reason, the last pic of the finished product isn't coming through. Bryan |
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| love the trap design ..... i would be careful with the facing cloth that the weave is not too tight as this will have a reflective response i have heard this in action and its not pretty .....also the fire aspect safety first... im gonna be building some too ![]() As long as you can breath through the material you will have no problems>
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Going from 4" to 24" thick with a higher GFR material like 705 or dense flavors of rockwool gives little reward for all the extra expense. About 4" is the "sweet spot' for efficeincy with such materials. Using only 4" of a lower GFR material like roll insulation will not work on LF - but 24" of it will perform superlatively all the way across the band. Mineral wool is not a health risk - but it is a nasty irritant - any breathable fabric cover will do to keep you away from it and vice versa - use the poly film if you want to reject HF as described above. | |
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| | #148 |
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| very, very nice! Are they still pretty 'firm' with the side holes? Regards, Macmod |
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| Lives for gear | Hi, here are a cuple of lousy pictures of the traps I have build - this thread was a big source of information I have made 7 pieces each si 1250x625x13 mm guess I need to clean thoose windows , my place is a total mess now I just moved into the new controlroom and am rebuilding the live room and bulding a vocal booth/iso booth ![]()
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