That's a good tip. I will go for 10 cm then. Would you go for 10 cm on the roof at my desk?
Yes. I would also suggest an air gap above the panel; that is, inbetween the panel and the ceiling. As large of a gap as you can afford would be preferred.
Yes. I would also suggest an air gap above the panel; that is, inbetween the panel and the ceiling. As large of a gap as you can afford would be preferred.
Do you have mounting tips for panels in the celing?
My ceiling cloud (1800 x 1200 x 100mm) is standing on two legs at the front wall, and the other end is hanging from where the lamp would be. Luckily a lamp attachment is roughly in the right place. In it there are two screwholes, in which I put two hooks, from which two chains are attached to the cloud.
Also one could put two more legs on the sides and a sideways beam on top. Hang or support the cloud using that. Even the first reflection panels could be attached to these legs, if they don´t have legs of their own.
Has anyone ever tried Cellulose panels in room treatments?
Hey guys. This is my first post here, and this has been a very informative place to start my room treatment research! I make proto-type stereo speakers and have moved into a new home. The room I plan to use for showcasing has hardwood floors with 8 foot ceilings. The cellulose idea I realize might be odd,... but I was helping an Uncle build his home. Contractors had "damp-sprayed" cellulose in between his exterior wall studs a few weeks before and it had dried to a dense almost spongy board-like stuff. The windows werent in yet, and my Uncle (who was outside the building about 15 feet away) was talking to me. When I moved 2 feet away from that open window I thought he'd stopped talking. I turned back to the opening, and he was still talking away. Odd. I then moved my head behind the cellulose, and he was gone. It was striking. So...does anyone think that this could work even better than fiberglass or rock wool? I found a supplier who sells this in 3.5" thick, 4'x8' sheets. The quiet of my Uncles home is amazing, so I have to try it. I'd like to try some corner bass traps first.
24x17x17, up to the ceiling, right?
Before i finalize and publish it i would like to get some comments from you guys.
3 requests....
1) please do not comment on how bad i suck at narration! HAHA
2) do not share the link as it will be a dead on after i edit it again.
3) if something isnt clear, please view that part again and if still isnt clear, let me know.
JB, I thought that vid was fantastic, very professional, thanks for making it!
I didn't see anything wrong with it and think it covered everything. I was wondering about material quantities but it will be different for everyone so there is no point mentioning it.
JB, I thought that vid was fantastic, very professional, thanks for making it!
I didn't see anything wrong with it and think it covered everything. I was wondering about material quantities but it will be different for everyone so there is no point mentioning it.
Your narration is great btw
I appreciate you viewing it.
So far i have noticed...
-Fastening is misspelled
-Two images should go longer for better viewing
-The background noise during the fabric part shouldnt be there
The material quantities is a good point and your counterpoint is a good one as well. I will mull it over.
just want to share. here's my basstrap with roxul 100kg/cm3
I Cut plywood into smaller pieces of 120x15 cm and 60x15cm
then I put it together with small nails and use some L hooks on the corner to make the frame more solid.
I cover it with some fabrics.
A quick question about something that wasn't clear to me.
You mention: 1/4" x 3/4" Cut Strips for Front Frame
Do you mean that you cut something into this size?
If so, what did you use as the original material? 1" x 2" furring strip?
Or did you buy strips that were already this size?
If this is the case, can you get this size lumber at places like home depot? (I don't think I've seen anything like it).
A quick question about something that wasn't clear to me.
You mention: 1/4" x 3/4" Cut Strips for Front Frame
Do you mean that you cut something into this size?
If so, what did you use as the original material? 1" x 2" furring strip?
Or did you buy strips that were already this size?
If this is the case, can you get this size lumber at places like home depot? (I don't think I've seen anything like it).
Thanks,
Keith
Good question. They were cut from a larger piece of wood, 1/4x6x36". I will add it to the notes.
Thank you JB!
So 1/4" x 6" x 36", right?
Wait ... the panels are 4' tall so is it like a 1/4" tick plywood or something that's 6' tall and 3' wide?
Also what size wood did you use for the posts to connect the front and the back frame? I can see that you use some chopped up 1" x 2"s, but I also see some square looking pieces. What are they?
And what did you use to cut the insulation to fit them into the posts? A box cutter or something?
Thank you JB!
So 1/4" x 6" x 36", right?
Wait ... the panels are 4' tall so is it like a 1/4" tick plywood or something that's 6' tall and 3' wide?
Also what size wood did you use for the posts to connect the front and the back frame? I can see that you use some chopped up 1" x 2"s, but I also see some square looking pieces. What are they?
And what did you use to cut the insulation to fit them into the posts? A box cutter or something?
Thanks
Keith
Now that i think about it, it was probly 48" pieces, its been awhile. So yeah, maybe 1/4x6x48".
Yeah, i used 1x2's for the posts. for the middle post maybe just 1" square stock.
I'm doing a similar DIY thing myself with gobos and bass traps. You really get a sense of achievement when you see one built, not to mention the money you save.
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When choosing material, is higher density the better?
you are best served by reading the stickies at the top of the forum which have many of these questions (and many you are yet to ask) answered or clues on what to pursue further...
the HT80 would not be a good choice. of course getting the roxul product(s) which are more targeted to acoustics than industrial thermal insulation would be a better. Roxul Safe'n'Sound™
Here are some bass traps I made for my little edit room. They were made completely with hand tools and stuffed with RW3 Rockwool. I built them with stands as I cannot put holes in the wall of a rented flat. Comments Appreciated.
Hi all. the more I read about this stuff the more confused I get! Regarding bass traps in the corners....I'd like to know about stacked, triangular floor-to-ceiling traps built of 703 triangles vs traps straddling the corner of ceiling and 2 walls. Is a 2x4 straddling the corner big enough?
They are 4.5 inches thick, the Rockwool is 100kg density and I just put two layers of 6cm each layer on each Bass trap. The size is of the Rockwool panels is 120x60 and the structure is 119x59
I bought some wood that I imagined I could design different from the video.
The wood front structure is like this and the back one is the opposite of the front, with the higher opposite (tunnel like).
After that, I built the structure and attached the fabric on the back side
Rockwool
More Rockwool
Front Side Fabric (Will place a thick lace type material soon around as a frame for a nicer look)
And that's my bedroom studio, 3 more on the way. (By the way if you do this project, fix the legs before applying the Rockwool with a 5cm screw, but not too tight, you need to be able to turn the legs. Then when you have finished applying the Rockwool, the front fabric, just start to spin the legs and at one point they are going to be tighter. Then celebrate the whole structure by using angles mounted on the back legs and there you go.
Thanks to Gearslutz and It's users that helped me buying the right material!
Hi guys, just thought I'd pop a question in... Is there any wood I shouldn't use for frames for my panels/traps? I've used the usual pine sorter stuff so far but ran out and wondered if I could recycle some stuff I've got in my garage such as hard heavy chip board stuff from an old table, hard wood (I think) from and old wardrobe? I know it sounds pretty noobish lol but I'd like to know before I go out and buy a load more pine. Thanks in advance!
Hi guys, just thought I'd pop a question in... Is there any wood I shouldn't use for frames for my panels/traps? I've used the usual pine sorter stuff so far but ran out and wondered if I could recycle some stuff I've got in my garage such as hard heavy chip board stuff from an old table, hard wood (I think) from and old wardrobe? I know it sounds pretty noobish lol but I'd like to know before I go out and buy a load more pine. Thanks in advance!
I prefer real wood because it´s way tr00.
But really, it´s a structural component. As long as it holds the thing together it´s fine.
Because I'm frequently wrong (especially when I'm obsessing about something) I wanted to tell you all my plan for making 2'x4'x6" panels. I have posted this on my personal thread but Glenn is the only one reading it an I wanted to make sure I get as many opinions as possible.
I am laying two sheets of rockwool 2'x4'x3" deep on top of one another and using a thin amount of spray adhesive to keep them together creating what will be four total 2'x4'x6" panels. Adhesive is ok right? No reduction if acoustical absorbency? This gives me the guts. Now instead of a frame which reduces absorbent surface area I am, with the help of my wonderful mother who is an excellent seamstress, going to make what are essentially burlap pillow-type cases that the rockwool will fit into. It will be 5 pieces of burlap (bottom and four sides) sewn together with the front facing piece of burlap a little long on top to fold over to the back and Velcro (industrial strength) to the back so that as the material stretches it can be undone and redone tighter.
I have decided for now that the first 4 panels I make will be on stands of sorts so for mixing they can be in corners or where ever else the eq wizard says is best and for recording I can move them. The stands will be, from ground up, a heavy base (not sure what this will be yet but picture a non tripod mic stand base) A 1 1/2 inch thick dowel rod will be attached to this base and go up about 1 1/2 feet where it is screwed into a platform of plywood that is slightly smaller than the 2'x6" bottom of the now burlap covered panels. Lastly on top of the stand and on bottom of the 2'x6" bottom of the panels more industrial strength Velcro. This will keep it stand upright. (Velcro comes in some amazing strengths these days.)
This plan allows for flexibility now and in the future if I should get a house and want to mount these to walls with other panels I make.
Here's some pictures of my basstraps in my new studio.
First time I've done this.
A little incomplete instructions, but you maybe get the point.
staggered OC703/705 (norwegian variant that's somewhere between these two)
to the top in the basstraps, covered with fabric and stapled.
made a wood strip at the top covered with fabric so cover all wood.
Used a isolation knife to cut them diagnoally in two. (60x60cm panels)
like this.
45degree wood straps, started filling up with panels
made a small frame, attatched fabric with staples and glued it with doubleglazed tape (maybe not the correct name for it, but with glue on both sides).. then nailed it with some small nails to the frame.
made a top plate of 22mm MDF. Stapled fabric all along it, and nailed it to the top wood straps. Also covered a wooden plank in fabric to hide the small gap between the top and front fabric.
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