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Old 20th May 2008, 05:26 PM   #631
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Thanks. My room sounds MUCH better now!
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Old 22nd May 2008, 06:48 PM   #632
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Very nice indeed!

It's fun to see how this thread has evolved and now have a life of its own. Keep on building!

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Ok, here are the finished traps.


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Old 23rd May 2008, 01:14 AM   #633
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Should my traps have a back pannel??

I've made 11 2x4 4inch thick frames filled with 4inch rockwool, I Covered them in fabric and mounted 4inches off the wall but i've made them with 1/8inch ply backs panels should i remove back panels so they are just rockwool in frames?????
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Old 23rd May 2008, 11:36 AM   #634
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I've made 11 2x4 4inch thick frames filled with 4inch rockwool, I Covered them in fabric and mounted 4inches off the wall but i've made them with 1/8inch ply backs panels should i remove back panels so they are just rockwool in frames?????
YES you do not want and kind of hard backs on them. HUGE NO NO.


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Old 12th June 2008, 08:44 PM   #635
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Thought I'd share my basstrap experience here since I've gotten so many ideas from this thread. In building them I discovered that unless you are handy with construction (which I am not) and/or have built traps before, you can run into some difficulties. Trial and error is how I made it through, so hopefully documenting my errors here will help another clueless DIY'er in the future.

I built 4 traps, dimensions: 4' x 2' x 4"

Material Cost
$32 - 4 panels of 4" Fibrex mineral wool.
$90 - 100ft of 1"x2" Maple wood
$110 - cloth
$7 - Spray adhesive
$3 - Tacks
$10 - Mounting hardware
$8 - Screws
$3 - Wood glue
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$263 Total (or about $65/trap)

So you can see right there that I spent as much building them by hand as they can be bought for by other reputable resellers (sans shipping/handling)
This isn't including a few other things I had to buy like a respirator mask (for cutting the min. wool = $4), the clamp I needed to hold the wood in place ($17) or the gas money spent in my 6 trips to various hardware stores (guesstimating around $10). Add those expenses into the mix and the price per trap gets up to around $74.
That's not including my time: I probably spent about 1.5 to 2 hours on each trap (with all the cutting, measuring and car time). At $50/hr, they end up being some expensive traps
I'm not trying to discourage anyone from building your own, I just think it's useful information to consider.

Issues I ran into
  1. My frames were a direct ripoff of Melodioso's traps - so thanks, man!
    The first issue I had was that his traps used 1"x1" wood and HomeDepot didn't have any that size so I had to buy 1"x2". The problem with that was 1"x2" isn't really 1 inches by 2 inches. It's about a 1/4 in. shorter on each dimension. This was surprising to me (again - I'm a construction newb) so I had to recalculate all my measurements when I got home and make another trip to HD to return the pre-cut wood for new pieces...which I ended up cutting myself this time because:
  2. The first time around I thought I'd be lazy and have HD cut my wood for me. I should have known by the look the guy gave me when I told him I needed 50 pieces of cut that it wasn't going to end well. Sure enough, half the cuts were up to an inch too short/long. So the second time around I just had them cut the stock 12' pieces short enough to fit in my car and I cut them myself at home!
  3. The other issue with the thicker wood was that when I screwed into it, it would crack! I had to drill deep pilot holes to get around that, which was a pain - but worked well.

Endnotes
So in the end, my traps ended up looking pretty good seeing as I'm no Bob Vila. For the cost though, I could have spent 20 minutes ordering them online and waited 4 days for the packages to arrive at my doorstep...and I can only assume they'd look more pro than what I made. That's what I'll be doing next when I order my 2" side-wall traps. A learning experience for sure.
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Old 12th June 2008, 08:45 PM   #636
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a few more pics...
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Old 23rd July 2008, 09:57 PM   #637
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what is the best way to attach these to the wall?

I would like to be able to get them flush, without damaging the wall, TOO much.

I plan on using wood for my frames...
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Old 24th July 2008, 08:38 AM   #638
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mounting

I asked a similar question here and got an answer that worked for me: eyehooks.

I put 2 eyehooks on the back of each panel (maybe 12" down from the top) and then put 2 regular hooks on the wall. If you're mounting them straddling the corner and built 2'x4' traps, then you can put the wall hooks 15" from the corner (worked for me anyway - best to test it yourself.).

Once I had all the hooks in place, I laced a zip-tie through the eyehook and closed it, leaving plenty of slack. I then had someone hold the panel up while I hooked the zip-ties over the wall hooks...tightened the ties down and boom: snug against ceiling and walls.
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Old 5th August 2008, 12:35 AM   #639
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where can I buy rockwool or mineral wool in the area? I have a lowes and home depot near me but neither sell rockwool. There is also 84 lumber and many more lumber yards. I just don't have the money to spend on 703 right now. I want to make at least 4 bass traps for my room and also some 2" panels for early reflections. Help me! thank you
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Old 5th August 2008, 02:37 PM   #640
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Another forum, but helpful

You didn't say what area you're in.

Either way, this might be of help:

Local sources for rigid insulation
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Old 5th August 2008, 06:42 PM   #641
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i found some at a local hydroponics store... not in massive sheets though.

this might be a silly question, but...
does is matter how wide my bass traps are? say they are 16" wide (without frame), do they need to be wider even though they are covering the corners? thanks!
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Old 5th August 2008, 11:54 PM   #642
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I live 20 mins from Cleveland in Ohio. I work at lowes. I'm thinking about getting some really thick insulation (safe touch insulation) and just stuffing it into a frame. unless I can buy some rigid stuff somewhere. I just don't know where to get it. Anyone? I want to spend less than 80 dollars. Mineral Wool? Rockwool? Any cheap 703?
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Old 9th August 2008, 07:31 PM   #643
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How heavy are these normal 2' by 4' Ft Bass traps? I'm going to make a few to help my room. Since my ceiling is a normal sloped ceiling I want to position two of them below the apex above my head in the mix Position.

I reckon I can make the traps myself. I'm by no means a DIY'er but I am quite practical and I know how to operate a screwdriver!

I'm a bit preturbed by having to mount them securely above my head though. Any tips for this? I don't want to do any excessive alterations because it is not my ceiling!

Also, any of you guys in the UK? I'm looking for the OC703 type equivalent.

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Old 12th August 2008, 06:44 AM   #644
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Hi Cojo, have a question for you, read as far as your second set of traps which look great, am going to copy you, but hey imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that

I'm in Copenhagen so figure I can source pretty much the same materials as you, and the price certainly sounds good.

Any chance you could list the names/brands of the materials you used - brand and exact type of mineral wool especially, and type of wood (if it matters), then I can find some dealers. I've not really done any furniture style DIY before and would like to give it a go, but haven't a clue as to this stuff.

Also, I've seen many traps that extend all the way from floor to ceiling, but yours look quite short, does it matter? And if they're only half the height of the room, should they be hung up from the top or stand on the floor?

How did your response tests turn out in the end, or did you get side-tracked with all that single malt?

I'm gathering that a 6" deep trap in each of the 4 corners, plus a 2" deep cloud and 2 x 2" sides should be the minimum..?
Thanks in advance for some pointers!
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