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Old 28th June 2012   #1
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Bass Trap Fabric on the Backside????

Hi,

Please forgive the newbie question, but I'm at a loss for which fabric(s) to use when building a bass trap. In particular, on the back side of the bass trap. I've been through several forums and posts and I understand, to a certain degree, what to use to cover the front of the trap (ie. Muslin, Burlap, Guilford of Maine, etc.), but I'm not sure if I should use the same material to cover the entire trap or if I should be using something different on the rear end of the trap.

I've watched quite a few DIY videos and most of them I see use a different material on the rear end. Is it necessary to use a different material and if so, can I get away with something really cheap without affecting the function of the trap?

I'm planning on either using Roxul insulation or an equivalent to Owens Corning 703/705.

While I'm at it, I don't know if I should start a new thread for a new question or just continue, but I'm sure someone out there will be happy to direct me as you guys so often do to other newbs...lol!!!

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I'm a little confused on how thick to make my traps. I know I need to do a test but I'm not sure how to go about it (Any suggestions...software??). I was thinking of buying the 2" think rigid fiberglass and doubling up to make 4" traps to put in the corners and back wall. I have no funds to get diffusors right now. I was thinking of just using 2" thick traps on the side walls and ceiling to reduce reflections and putting as many 4" traps as funds allow everywhere else. I see people warning about making the room too dead. Just want to get your thoughts on that.

I'll be using room mainly for mixing, but also to record vocals and maybe some acoustic guitar. Room dimensions are 8 x 10 x 8.


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I'll be using room mainly for mixing, but also to record vocals and maybe some acoustic guitar. Room dimensions are 8 x 10 x 8.
Your room may be too small for diffusion. No need to worry about this (yet). You almost have a cube, not very ideal for acoustics.

The fabric prevents the escape of fibers, that could potentially end up in your lungs. Therefore if your trap/panel has an air gap, with having fibers exposed, cover it with acoustic transparent fabric. (like you would do the front)

If that fabric is not visible (like the back of a reflection panel, mounted with a gap between itself and the wall), you may use some cheaper, less "fancy" looking one like muslim, burlap, cotton, as long as it is acoustically transparent too. It can save you some money.

If there is no air gap between your trap/panel and the wall/corner, you can either use the wall as seal, or something like cardboard, paper, plastic, wood etc.


This is how I constructed my clouds and early reflection panels:



On the front I used speaker fabric at the cost of $7 per yard. The back was covered by a cheap stretch fabric at ~$2.50 per yard, that was spray-glued (mainly on sides and with very little glue) onto the back panel. The sides of the Roxul panels are covered by the outside wooden frame, no need for fabric there.

Detail view of the assembled panel (fabric in the back is black; grey on front):

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Most people use a different fabrics in the back due to the fact that you dont see the back, and that nice fabric is generally expensive. I've found that pasting canvas, or burlap serves well at $1-$2/yard for the back. In regards to 2" vs 4", 2" panels will absorb the higher frequencies just as well as the 4" panels, while the 4" helps with the lower bass frequencies. You should start with a couple of panels and the bass traps in the corners, and go from there.

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Seen Da Sizer - Nice build on the panels. I like the stained wood frame
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On the front I used speaker fabric at the cost of $7 per yard. The back was covered by a cheap stretch fabric at ~$2.50 per yard, that was spray-glued (mainly on sides and with very little glue) onto the back panel. The sides of the Roxul panels are covered by the outside wooden frame, no need for fabric there.
Could you please share where did you buy speaker fabric for 7 dollars? I am also looking for as dark black as possible since I am intending to use for home theater.
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Could you please share where did you buy speaker fabric for 7 dollars? I am also looking for as dark black as possible since I am intending to use for home theater.
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The yard is $7.25. I you buy 10 or more yards, then the price goes down to $6.90.

Speaker Grill Cloth, Acoutically Transparent Cloth, Speaker Cloth, Dark Pure Black Grill Cloth, Patterned Grill Cloth, Amplifier Cabinet Cloth

They have the colors Black, Gray, Brown, and (off)White. The good news is, the fabric is 70" wide, which allows to cover large areas. However, the fabric is a bit on the thinner side. Since I had to cover a larger area, I used fly-screen underneath the fabric. Also keep in mind that the Black is not a 100% black. It was black enough for me though:

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