Treating Studio Rooms - pictures added

[fcorl]

I love the design and the drum sound. I have an extra box of 2' Auralex Mineral Fiber insulation. Will this work just as well in place of the 703?

I have a 11X15 drum room. Right now I have 4 small Auralex LENRD bass traps in the top of each corner, a few flat foam WEDGE absorbers on the walls, and a couple panels of the MiniFusor diffusers. It tightened the room ever so slightly, but I've heard people pretty much bash this overpriced stuff.

[Jason Poulin]

Originally Posted by Nehe555

im a bit new at this stuff, and i've got a quick question:

how does one strike that balance between over-deadening a room with treatment and having no treatment at all?

after looking at the photos, the first thing that came to mind was, "i wonder if the room is now really dead-sounding." of course, after hearing that little drum jam, i'm convinced that it sounds great. but if i were to undertake a similar project, i wouldn't want overkill.

would appreciate any response to this. btw, i'm not in any way bashing ur work jason. it looks fantastic and i'm very happy for u!

I'd have to say in my case, with such a small room... There was absolutely nothing what so ever good about it.

Every sound and reflection was complete crap.... very tinny and springy (if you have a small room, low ceiling, you know the sound I'm talking about when you clap your hands)


I found by killing the room sound completely (as far as any reflections go), I can get tighter and more detailed recordings of the source and yes I do need to use artificial reverbs to widen things or ambient drum samples to augment the track. But hey, I can live with this... And I understand our limitations

Is this the best way to work? No... but for us it's the only way since a room is a room and we cannot make it bigger unfortunately... Although we are building a new studio now so I look forward to working in there.

I do have to say... when mixing, it is a lot tighter... I hear what the bass is doing and I can really tell the difference between instruments and their frequency ranges.



I'd say... if it aint good to begin with, kill it! (To a certain extent as well... You don't want to kill all of your highs or make it completely lifeless)

just my opinion... this was a very small room for tracking

This project was one small step in the budget and ONE LARGE STEP for the studio!!!!


Good luck!!!


Jason

[Jason Poulin]

Here's a clip of drums tracked in the rooms for those who haven't heard it...



http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...610#post696610

with eq, compression, along with ambient drum samples helping these out to add depth, this track would sound cool in a mix.


Jason

[Ethan Winer]

Originally Posted by fcorl

I have an extra box of 2' Auralex Mineral Fiber insulation. Will this work just as well in place of the 703?

Yes, but for bass traps you want four inches thick. So assuming you meant 2" and not 2', hopefully you have enough to double them up and get at least four 4" traps.

Right now I have 4 small Auralex LENRD bass traps in the top of each corner, a few flat foam WEDGE absorbers on the walls, and a couple panels of the MiniFusor diffusers. It tightened the room ever so slightly, but I've heard people pretty much bash this overpriced stuff.

Right, "ever so slightly" is the key with stuff like LENRDs and thin foam generally. If you were to buy or make some real bass traps you'll get much more improvement.

--Ethan

[Baz]

Great job on all that work and very cool that your Dad was able to help ya out.

The drum clip sounds great, man

[Jason Poulin]

Originally Posted by Baz

Great job on all that work and very cool that your Dad was able to help ya out.

The drum clip sounds great, man

Thanks man!

We had a great time building them, even though we froze in the sub 30 celcius temperature when cutting the wood... and the opolstery (spelling?) was a real pain! But still... it was fun!

Jason

[gatormusic]

I couple weeks ago I read some posts about building bass traps with slats placed between and held together with bolts and washers. In searching I'm not finding that thread again. The pictures and how-to were very informative. Anyone know what thread that was?
Thank you,
Gary Gordon

[audiovisceral]

Originally Posted by tmcconnell

3) Do not under any circumstances overdamp the room. It just sounds dead.

My recordings are WAY beter since the treatment,.

Diffusors + bass traps = gold

[Bruno5150]

hey jason, nice work man! i also own a studio with small tracking and control rooms with low ceiling... now im workin on some corner basstraps for the tracking room... and latter work on the control room, with traps, diffusers,.. a lot of work, but your traps and the result you got give me some hope!!! cheers

[Jason Poulin]

Originally Posted by Bruno5150

hey jason, nice work man! i also own a studio with small tracking and control rooms with low ceiling... now im workin on some corner basstraps for the tracking room... and latter work on the control room, with traps, diffusers,.. a lot of work, but your traps and the result you got give me some hope!!! cheers

Have hope man... it's the best thing you can do for your sound. If I had to start from scratch, I'd invest in the room before the gear.


good luck!