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Old 25th September 2010   #1
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cubicle walls covered with oc703 as absorbers and clouds and a diy PRV vs gobos

this is kind of a continuation of ideas i had on another thread i started, you can read it if you want to here

room to vocal booth-pics and dimensions inside (rockwool absorbtion?)

i was thinking if i got some cubicle walls, i could increase their absorbtion by addding a layer of rockwool/oc703 or something similar to the face of them and make a nice little baffle set. i was also thinking that i could use a cubicle wall and do the same thing and use it as a absorbtion cloud i could hang over my mixing station.

has anyone ever tried this?
i think it might work pretty well in someplace where you cant destroy the walls, like an apartment.

now my question is, if i layered the whole room with these cubicle walls, would i need bass traps in the corners if i was only recording vocals as the vocalist would already be baffled in the middle of the room by 3 more baffles in the left right and back.

my room is 10' by 12' 6'' with a slanted vaulted ceiling, that starts at 7' 10'' on one end and ends up being around twelve feet high on the other end. (i have a few diagrams i made in the other thread)

do you think i could get away with a cloud hanging over the vocalists head and just lightly treating the ceiling with some thin eggcrate foam as opposed to having to figure out how to install rockwool or something similar on the ceiling?

one more thing, i have been looking at the PORTABLE VOCAL BOOTH, but i was thinking of a DIY one. ill include a link that shows you how to build it for 30 dollars.

here is a link to the DIY portable vocal booth that you can build for 30 bucks!

the other option i was tossing around was maybe puttting a 3 sided folding gobo in front of the mic, but since the vocalist will be surrounded by 3 baffles already i am afraid it will sound too boxy, does anyone track like this? and what kind of results are you getting from it?
i feel like the 30 dollar reflection filter will work better, and avoid the boxy sound alltogether as its only surrounding the back side of the microphone.

My Home Studio Build Diary: DIY Portable Vocal Booth!

i know this is kind of a long post,but thanks in advance for taking the time to read it and help me out a little. and if you dont mind, read over my other thread and if you have anything to chime in feel free.

thanks again fellow sluts!
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Old 25th September 2010   #2
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Just a comment regarding the approach, as i am sure others will be willing to make more specific recommendations.

You have begun with a focus on treatments rather than a focus on room behavior and identifying particular behaviors to be addressed.

As such, some may work, some may not - its impossible for me to say as I have no idea regarding the specific behaviors we are trying to address.

I might suggest starting with an analysis of the behavior of the room as it exists now, and then in light of what you are doing in the room, determine a response you desire, and THEN choose treatments that will specifically contribute to the specific behavioral characteristics you desire.

Best of luck.
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hmmm, i guess i should analyze my room properly, but i didnt really want to pay for one of those acoustic analyzer softwares; so i was just going of my instinct of what i want the room to sound like in the end. what i do know is there is a reverb to the room that i want out. that is why i wanted to put absorption panels everywhere; so i could get the room as dead as possible.

i was thinking that absorbtion panels everywhere would be better than bare walls, and it would at least reduce the reverb in the room; thats all im really looking for; and with my lack of acoustic knowledge this seems like the most logical thing for me to do.

i have seen the auralex room analyzers for free and the ones from ATS acoustics, but i dont really want to use them, becuase i dont want them sending me a bunch of information about their products if i dont really plan on using them anyway; i wanted to do it myself. that is why im steering clear of those places.

is there a way that i could analyze my room by myself or a free room analysis method that isnt connected to an acoustic panel selling website?
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It appears that you have been here a while - and you still are not aware that RoomEQWizard and the base version of ARTA are free? REW is a bit more accessible, while ARTA is more comprehensive, but a bit more intimidating with a more complex interface reflecting its enhanced capabilities.

Improperly applied treatment solves little and simply moves problems around.

I might suggest reviewing the stickies and the tutorials on both the RealTrap and GIK websites and getting a more developed sense of the analysis and treatment process.

And it is a defined process - not simply a matter of serendipitously applying treatments that are 'supposed' to work.

Additionally, you might want to review the several chapters on acoustics and measurements in Sound System Engineering by Davis & Patronis.

Take a bit of time to become familiar with the basic concepts, process, and the use of the software (be sure to avail yourself of the software documentation and online support!) and then post details about your room and intended use.

We can help, but it is dependent upon having a defined concept of the intended use and accurate details about the room behavior.

BTW, there is no appreciable reverberant soundfield in a small acoustical space. For more details see SSE above.
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thanks alot SAC, i will definitely check that software out; i am actually not currently in the room; so i guess i will have to wait until i set up shop in that room to measure it. in the meantime i will read up about acoustics and try and find a copy of that book.
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