quick soundfield for drum recording in dead room?

[mikahanau]

Hello friends of acoustics

Since this mornig i can`t stop to think about, how i will record some drums in my half finished studio.
Just the controlroom and a good sizend but very dry sounding vocal booth of about 15m² is usable, until march of 2011, when the live room will be ready. so i have to find a solution to get a good drumsound out of this dead vocalbooth.
My idea was to build some small(6c, radius) but high 2,5 meters) polydiffusors out of insulation filled PVC pipes, screw them on stands an place them around the drumkit while recording.
I know bruce swedian did that "quick soundfield" for micheal jacksons vocals, but how could it sound with drums?

It should be a temporary solution so i don`t want to spent that much money.
With the waterpipes (PVC with about 6cm radius) i can build about 20 diffusorstands with my given budget.
Do you think this idea could work?



cheers
mika

[mikahanau]

i can`t belive that there is no person out there ,with experience with a QSF.
for all, the people who don?t know the idea of a QSF you can rede here ASC Quick Sound Field for Control Room and Mix Environments


cheers
Mika

[johndykstra]

well you did give the thread all of two hours to develop. you should change the title to "quick answers on quick sound fields"

[mikahanau]

ell you did give the thread all of two hours to develop. you should change the title to "quick answers on quick sound fields"__________________

done

[avare]

Who knows with all details you gave on the current state of the room. Short answer is try it! It will be useful for other instruments in the future regardless.

Andre

[Cornvalley]

The reflective side of a Studio Trap is not the same as a PVC pipe. Some sort of special grated metallic thing that provides some scattered high frequency reflections is what it has that I don't think you can obtain from plain old PCV.

[DanDan]

I use sheets of plywood leaning against the wall. The angle prevents flutter and redirects the very early reflections, hopefully up into a 'cloud'.
DD

[G. E.]

Originally Posted by mikahanau

... Since this mornig i can`t stop to think about, how i will record some drums in my half finished studio.
Just the controlroom and a good sizend but very dry sounding vocal booth of about 15m² is usable, until march of 2011, when the live room will be ready. so i have to find a solution to get a good drumsound out of this dead vocalbooth.
My idea was to build some small(6c, radius) but high 2,5 meters) polydiffusors out of insulation filled PVC pipes, screw them on stands an place them around the drumkit while recording.
I know bruce swedian did that "quick soundfield" for micheal jacksons vocals, but how could it sound with drums?

It should be a temporary solution so i don`t want to spent that much money.
With the waterpipes (PVC with about 6cm radius) i can build about 20 diffusorstands with my given budget.
Do you think this idea could work? ...

Here are some snippets of test-recordings done in a ~13m2 [~140 square foot] room with one mic in overhead position, 100% unprocessed (uncompressed and readily looped WAV-Files in the ZIP) both "Dry" and "QSF" versions where I put up four diffusors in front of the drum-kit. It may not be the perfect equivalent to your plan but from my experience your PVC-pipes could work and get you some wanted early dense low level reflections (though ASC's StudioTraps[TM] have a larger diameter!).

[G. E.]

Originally Posted by G. E.

... both "Dry" and "QSF" versions...

See images for room situation while recording -- the absorption behind the drumset remained unchanged.

[mikahanau]

Thank you very much, Gernot

I will listen to it later in the studio