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Old 28th March 2010   #1
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would like some advice on this room please

I'm not looking for serious mixing and mastering, tweaking and perfecting... I want to get on with writing music. But I've heard loud and clear from many people to put some time into sorting the room out to give a better sound is worth it.

Here's the room (sorry about the mess). I have some active monitors arriving next week with some other gear. I've just taken loads of stuff out of this attic to create a workspace. Just trying to think of positioning and panels to absorb sound.. but not sure where or anything. I like where the workstation is setup at the moment though.



Across the above image is 3.8 meters long.

This room is in the attic, so you can see the shape of the roof. From the ground to highest point it's 3.3 meters height.

from behind the computer in the above image, to the wall behind me is 5 meters.

Here's a couple of pictures showing the roof shape:



and the back of the room:


It's an old build house and the walls really slant.

Is there anything anyone could advise? I've done some reading into it and gone cross eyed with how technical it gets, just looking for some simple solutions. I'm ok at building things, and these sound panel things sound straight forward with the guides.

Any advice would be much appreciated!
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It is hard to get the actual dimensions of the room from the photos, but you want to face the short wall (I think that is where the bike is) to run the speakers down the longest wall. See the following for layout and mix spot.
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It is hard to get the actual dimensions of the room from the photos, but you want to face the short wall (I think that is where the bike is) to run the speakers down the longest wall. See the following for layout and mix spot.
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ahh great stuff. That's how it's setup at the moment. the wall where the bike is, is just under 5 meters (the longest wall).

Are there any potential problems with building some of these panels and traps and just having a go, with very limited knowledge? Making the panels is easy, but placement of them is something I'm not 100% on.

I would just put some over the wall where the bike is - and make bass traps for any corners... possibly bass traps on the point of the roof? I don't know.
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Basically you want to cover as many corners as you can and also it the early reflection points.
What Are Early Reflection Points. SPOTLIGHT:Bob Ebeling - Revolution Studio

Edit. You can also download this program to see what kind of progress you are making as treat the place.
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Basically you want to cover as many corners as you can and also it the early reflection points.
What Are Early Reflection Points. SPOTLIGHT:Bob Ebeling - Revolution Studio

Edit. You can also download this program to see what kind of progress you are making as treat the place.
Room EQ Wizard Home Page
excellent. Thank you! much appreciated.
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Perfect

Jake, you may be the exception that makes the rule. It is possible that your room may work well with very little treatment. I doubt if you have any flutter issues. I kinda doubt that you have bass issues either. All that panelling is bass trapping of a sort. That leaves just RFZ/Cloud treatments.
I could be completely off here. How does it sound at the moment? Clap your hands, flutter? Play some music through speakers. Does the bass level change drastically with position? If you are up for it you could actually measure the room response which would give graphical information on how it is behaving.
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+1 to Glenn and your thoughts on setup. Do treat the bike wall. Corners and Apex I dunno. You can test this by using sine waves. Slowly sweep a LF sine in the room. If it hits a modal resonance, it will be loud. Check your corners to see if there is a huge buildup there. If there is, trap it.
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Jake, you may be the exception that makes the rule. It is possible that your room may work well with very little treatment. I doubt if you have any flutter issues. I kinda doubt that you have bass issues either. All that panelling is bass trapping of a sort. That leaves just RFZ/Cloud treatments.
I could be completely off here. How does it sound at the moment? Clap your hands, flutter? Play some music through speakers. Does the bass level change drastically with position? If you are up for it you could actually measure the room response which would give graphical information on how it is behaving.
Ears are quite good too though!
+1 to Glenn and your thoughts on setup. Do treat the bike wall. Corners and Apex I dunno. You can test this by using sine waves. Slowly sweep a LF sine in the room. If it hits a modal resonance, it will be loud. Check your corners to see if there is a huge buildup there. If there is, trap it.
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Thanks DD! really appreciate that info so much! Thank you.

I tried clapping and the sound is pretty dead... if that makes sense... it doesnt make that sound when sound bounces off walls (my vocabulary with this sucks..)

Thanks for the advice. I'll panel up the bike wall and do the corners.

I'm getting a pair of KRK VXT 8's next week so will be able to test it properly. Thanks for the info on testing once I have those.
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