Rockboard 60 vs OC 703, which is more RIGID?

kesslerjesus · 21st January 2010

Just wondering, out of the people who have had experience with both materials. Which do you think would be a better choice when making a frameless corner traps?

The plan is to purchase 2" panels, and using spray adhesive, glue them together and cover them with fabric, no frames at all.

Trying to find out which one would last longer or not lose it's form over a long period of time.

avare · 21st January 2010

Rockboard 60 is stiffer.

Stiffly,
Andre

Brent Hahn · 21st January 2010

With either material, the edges and corners probably won't look great without a frame. For my panels, I spray-glued 1/8" x 2" pine strips to the edges of the 703. (since the pine came in 8' lengths, I trimmed 1/4" off the lengthwise dimension of the 703 so that one pine strip would be exactly enough for one panel, allowing for the corners) Structurally, it's not a frame per se, but it really helps the look. Most of my panels are almost 10 years old and they still look new.

Glenn Kuras · 21st January 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by avare

Rockboard 60 is stiffer.

Stiffly,
Andre

Andre I have to respectfully disagree. I work with both daily and the 703 is actually more rigid. It is not until you get to 8 pound that the both are about the same.

avare · 21st January 2010

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Originally Posted by Glenn Kuras

Andre I have to respectfully disagree. I work with both daily and the 703 is actually more rigid. It is not until you get to 8 pound that the both are about the same.

No disagreement seen.

Several years I was doing some research on Roxul products and found 2 different
products with the same name! One was marketed in Canada and the other in the USA.

Andre

Glenn Kuras · 21st January 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by avare

No disagreement seen.

Several years I was doing some research on Roxul products and found 2 different
products with the same name! One was marketed in Canada and the other in the USA.

Andre

Yea have seen that many times.

kesslerjesus · 21st January 2010

Now I'm reconsidering the project.

My plan was to make panels, and stack panels up on top of one another to cover my corners (since the room height is 8 feet tall, 2 4ft tall panels should cover the entire height), but now I'm thinking they might either break apart, sag or pretty much end up looking like my last project...

depressed fat pillows...

Hardtoe · 21st January 2010

I just bought some Rockboard 60 yeserday - this is some stiff (and heavy) material - I think it could hold itself up for a long time.

Glenn Kuras · 21st January 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by kesslerjesus

Now I'm reconsidering the project.

My plan was to make panels, and stack panels up on top of one another to cover my corners (since the room height is 8 feet tall, 2 4ft tall panels should cover the entire height), but now I'm thinking they might either break apart, sag or pretty much end up looking like my last project...

depressed fat pillows...

If you think it is going to be a problem the build some frames for it.

Jesse Mangum · 21st February 2010

I don't think this is a complete hijack... I hope not, anyway!

I'm wondering which of the two products (rigid fiberglass or rockboard) would be better suited to compress between the ends of two walls that are supposed to be as decoupled as possible (I'm referring to a gap that would run from floor to ceiling, then across the ceiling, and then back down the opposite wall, and this would all be in the airlock between my live room and control room.)

I just want to separate the spaces as much as possible while solving the (aesthetic if nothing else) problem of having a continuous "wall" between the two (an effect created by covering the walls with (flame proof/******ant) fabric, thus covering up the rockboard/rigid fiberglass seam.

Will this work? Or will it still transfer between the two spaces (factoring in that the spaces behind the proposed rigid-material-filled-gap don't need to have any real noise reduction... just trying to decouple the walls. I've read the books, and while they offer other solutions as far as building this decoupling into the door frame and whatnot, I'd rather do it this way if possible.

Sorry for the long-winded post, I just wanted to articulate my problem. Thanks in advance for any help, and thanks again to those who will probably chime in and have helped me before... the studio construction is going great (even if I'm a year behind my self-imposed opening date!)

J.

Glenn Kuras · 21st February 2010

My understanding is you can just use fluffy fiberglass which will save you a ton of money.

Nordenstam · 21st February 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by kesslerjesus

My plan was to make panels, and stack panels up on top of one another to cover my corners (since the room height is 8 feet tall, 2 4ft tall panels should cover the entire height), but now I'm thinking they might either break apart, sag or pretty much end up looking like my last project...

Am using 60kg/m^3 rockwool and it's plenty dense enough to stack without crumbling or breaking.

21st January 2010	#1
kesslerjesus Gear addict Joined: Sep 2009 Location: NY Posts: 385 Thread Starter	Rockboard 60 vs OC 703, which is more RIGID? Just wondering, out of the people who have had experience with both materials. Which do you think would be a better choice when making a frameless corner traps? The plan is to purchase 2" panels, and using spray adhesive, glue them together and cover them with fabric, no frames at all. Trying to find out which one would last longer or not lose it's form over a long period of time.

21st January 2010	#3
Brent Hahn Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,167	With either material, the edges and corners probably won't look great without a frame. For my panels, I spray-glued 1/8" x 2" pine strips to the edges of the 703. (since the pine came in 8' lengths, I trimmed 1/4" off the lengthwise dimension of the 703 so that one pine strip would be exactly enough for one panel, allowing for the corners) Structurally, it's not a frame per se, but it really helps the look. Most of my panels are almost 10 years old and they still look new. __________________ Brent Hahn http://www.radioactive.la http://www.studio-noho.net

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Hardtoe Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Saskatchewan / Canada Posts: 1,944	I just bought some Rockboard 60 yeserday - this is some stiff (and heavy) material - I think it could hold itself up for a long time. __________________ bring back *stike* bring back *thumbsup* Sincerely Yours, Orion L. Paradis

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21st January 2010	#2
avare Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, On Canada Posts: 3,697	Rockboard 60 is stiffer. Stiffly, Andre

21st February 2010	#10
Jesse Mangum Gear Head Joined: May 2008 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 68	I don't think this is a complete hijack... I hope not, anyway! I'm wondering which of the two products (rigid fiberglass or rockboard) would be better suited to compress between the ends of two walls that are supposed to be as decoupled as possible (I'm referring to a gap that would run from floor to ceiling, then across the ceiling, and then back down the opposite wall, and this would all be in the airlock between my live room and control room.) I just want to separate the spaces as much as possible while solving the (aesthetic if nothing else) problem of having a continuous "wall" between the two (an effect created by covering the walls with (flame proof/******ant) fabric, thus covering up the rockboard/rigid fiberglass seam. Will this work? Or will it still transfer between the two spaces (factoring in that the spaces behind the proposed rigid-material-filled-gap don't need to have any real noise reduction... just trying to decouple the walls. I've read the books, and while they offer other solutions as far as building this decoupling into the door frame and whatnot, I'd rather do it this way if possible. Sorry for the long-winded post, I just wanted to articulate my problem. Thanks in advance for any help, and thanks again to those who will probably chime in and have helped me before... the studio construction is going great (even if I'm a year behind my self-imposed opening date!) J.

21st February 2010	#11
Glenn Kuras Gear Guru Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,995	My understanding is you can just use fluffy fiberglass which will save you a ton of money.