Unsure about my purchased panels

[SeniorityFedup]

proffesional or experienced advice needed..

YouTube - Help gearslutz!

Here is a quick minute video of what i paid a studio consultant about 340$.
However after seeing the basstrap threads with holes on the side and about 4 inches thick not to mention placement.

Foam Corner Kits

Also i purchased foam bass traps from foamforyou.com
16 for about 150$ which i plan to place on the four corners of my 10ftx12 approx room.

The said consultant guy said the foam was good enough (for a indie studio guy like me) and the panels were made by him.. The 4 panels are 1.5" thick 3'x4' and no separation from the walls.
Since i have this interesting fabric to cover the panels with, i plan to make about 4 more myself for a quarter of the price if the fiberglass is a good price.. Ill post the name of high density acoustic fiber i get in contact with the maker. Sell? Or make a few more. Im kinda jealous of those traps with the circles on the side
thanks in advance

[takman]

i dont have any audio on my computer at the moment....

did he wrap the panels with fabric? or was the price unwrapped? from the looks of the panels, they look ordinary....and if they are for bass trapping..they certainly are not thick enough. and 3' x 4' is an odd size.....

[SeniorityFedup]

Hello, they are a little odd at approx. 3x4' but it was to accomadate the fabric by request. I tore off the fabric on one to look into one of these panels andi have more for about 5 more if can find the same insulation and deem it worthy to build to treat my room. Im recording vid via iphone sorry for low quality and darkness
here is another quick vid.
YouTube - A closer look at the panels
if there is anything that doesnt look like it will work please inform me.

Also front wall and back wall have 1.5 inch foam tiles which i may replace with these panels if it is a sound idea

[SeniorityFedup]

Originally Posted by takman

...and if they are for bass trapping..they certainly are not thick enough. and 3' x 4' is an odd size.....

yeah :( how about the corner foam wedges? Decent?

[takman]

dont know much about foam other than it has to be really thick to absorb lows...and that a panel across a corner is much more effective than foam the same size....

it looks like some kind of fiberglass like owens corning...ask the guy what he used.

first off, if you have the space ( it looks tight in there), mount the panels with an air gap..makes them more effective ( unless they are already..hard to tell). are you sure these panels arent 2" ?they should ideally be 2" thick...they do look a but thin...

secondly, if you decide to use panels over the corner, they should be thicker...say 4"..the foam in the corner will give you more room, but the panel will be more effective ( IMO anyways)

I'd say use what he built for you as 1st reflection panels mounted with an air gap, then build yourself some bass traps, and use those in combination with the foam.

that fabric looks thick...can you breathe through it easily?

[Glenn Kuras]

Foam Corner Kits

Also i purchased foam bass traps from foamforyou.com

Hate to tell you this but you have been ripped off. That company is the same as foam by mail which does not sell acoustic foam. Ethan Winer tested there stuff in a lab and found there numbers they claim to be bogus. Sorry to tell you that but those are the facts.

[takman]

whoa....well, maybe its best to cut your losses and start over fresh...build your own panels...

i think all of us have been there at some point...sorry bro

[SeniorityFedup]

Originally Posted by takman

mount the panels with an air gap..makes them more effective ( unless they are already..hard to tell). are you sure these panels arent 2" ?they should ideally be 2" thick...they do look a but thin...




that fabric looks thick...can you breathe through it easily?

- The panels are 1.5'' thick.. and approx 4x3' (custom size)
How much gap should i give a panel of 1.5 thickness?

-The fabric is made of sheep wool , i CAN breathe through it, but not as easy as other lighter fabrics. I didnt notice a difference when speaking to the naked fiber glass and the covered fiberglass (not sure if thats even a worthy test)

thanks

[SeniorityFedup]

Originally Posted by Glenn Kuras

Hate to tell you this but you have been ripped off. That company is the same as foam by mail which does not sell acoustic foam. Ethan Winer tested there stuff in a lab and found there numbers they claim to be bogus. Sorry to tell you that but those are the facts.

hey thanks for the honest responce thats what i was looking for.thumbsup

[takman]

Originally Posted by SeniorityFedup

- The panels are 1.5'' thick.. and approx 4x3' (custom size)
How much gap should i give a panel of 1.5 thickness?

-The fabric is made of sheep wool , i CAN breathe through it, but not as easy as other lighter fabrics. I didnt notice a difference when speaking to the naked fiber glass and the covered fiberglass (not sure if thats even a worthy test)

thanks

well..the general consensus here is that the gap should be at least the thickness of the panel...but there are others who believe differently. The panels should really be 2" in thickness..so just make the gap 2"

cool, should be fine on the fabric then....

[SeniorityFedup]

Originally Posted by takman

well..the general consensus here is that the gap should be at least the thickness of the panel...but there are others who believe differently. The panels should really be 2" in thickness..so just make the gap 2"

cool, should be fine on the fabric then....

great .. glad because i dont want to ditch these designs..
one more question . and i should be on my way to building some traps !

I plan to keep the panels on the sides of the walls and then purchase some mineral wool to make 4'' thick traps

I have located some mineral fiber at 2.5 lbs PCF out of state . However it is expensive to ship to miami.
There is however 8 lb PCF mineral wool an hour away.

Is 8lb as good an absorbant as the less dense 2.5? or is it too dense ?

If i order the 2.5 PCF it will be more expensive than the 8lb pcf due to shipping.
thanks for the valuable info guys

[takman]

Originally Posted by SeniorityFedup

great .. glad because i dont want to ditch these designs..
one more question . and i should be on my way to building some traps !

I plan to keep the panels on the sides of the walls and then purchase some mineral wool to make 4'' thick traps

I have located some mineral fiber at 2.5 lbs PCF out of state . However it is expensive to ship to miami.
There is however 8 lb PCF mineral wool an hour away.

Is 8lb as good an absorbant as the less dense 2.5? or is it too dense ?

If i order the 2.5 PCF it will be more expensive than the 8lb pcf due to shipping.
thanks for the valuable info guys

over in europe we use kilograms to measure density......

from the posts i have read on here, and from my own experience..density seems to come in low, medium and high...

I chose the lowest for mine, others have gone highest....what seems to be the case here is that if its too dense, it will just end up reflecting rather than absorbing....whats too dense and whats not dense enough? cant say...

a search of "density" brings back 364 results...so your answer lies somewhere there, just have to do a few minutes of reading.

I suppose it also depends upon what your needs are..will you be listening/playing music that has alot of low frequencies?? maybe you need a material with higher density and larger air gap....but you have to think about what you have the space for...

[PaulP]

Originally Posted by SeniorityFedup

I have located some mineral fiber at 2.5 lbs PCF out of state . However it is expensive to ship to miami.

There is however 8 lb PCF mineral wool an hour away.

SeniorityFedup, have you tried this place, headquartered in Miami :

Domestic Products - All Interior Supply, Inc

Paul P

[SeniorityFedup]

Hey thanks. I just called them .. the salesman apparently there is a problem with production on some mineral wool.. All they have is 2.5 pcf density (which im lookng for) but at 3" thick (not tha great since i would need 2" to double it and make 4" or just get 4".)

Quote TAKMAN
I suppose it also depends upon what your needs are..will you be listening/playing music that has alot of low frequencies?? maybe you need a material with higher density and larger air gap....but you have to think about what you have the space for...

Yes this is good to consider. I basically plan to track and record in my studio room and mix in it. I figure the best option would be to have a somewhat dead room with little reflection.
Im going to play it safe and get low to medium density.

[dkelley]

here's an important point...

how does your room SOUND now with the panels in place??

if it sounds amazing, leave it alone. :-)

if not, then yea, mess with what you have, but all in all that wasn't much cash you put out. many people build bass traps and panels for $50 to $100 a 4x2 panel... so you did fine.

foam isn't as good as rockwool or pressed fibreglass, but it's much better than doing nothing and blows away egg cartons LoL.

[Weasel9992]

Originally Posted by dkelley

foam isn't as good as rockwool or pressed fibreglass, but it's much better than doing nothing and blows away egg cartons LoL.

That's not always true Don. It's definitely possible to make the room even worse than with nothing at all.

Frank

[SeniorityFedup]

so would these corner foam traps be of any use then along the floor where the walls meet the floor i have tile and a rug over the tile. this is the best idea for me .

[Weasel9992]

Originally Posted by SeniorityFedup

so would these corner foam traps be of any use then along the floor where the walls meet the floor i have tile and a rug over the tile. this is the best idea for me .

Glenn already said it...it's really not worth much. Quite honestly it doesn't matter much where you put it, it's not going to have much (if any) effect. The floor/wall intersection is as good a place as any.

Frank