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Some sketchups of my near future studio

Been doing research about this for 6+ months now. after 3 books and hours spent researching on the net, i think im getting close here....hopefully

So, I've been doing some doodles on sketch up. I havent run Room EQ wizard, but before i start anything i plan on doing it. This is just to get a rough idea while i have time to kill.

Room dimensions:

13'11" x 9'6" x 9'9"(ceiling)

if you want to have a look, heres the sketch up files (theres 4 different variations)

4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download studio1.skp
4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download studio2.skp
4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download studio3.skp
4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download studio4.skp



Yellow area above the closet (the two blue doors) is currently storage that i am going to plug to make the room more symetrical. Also, the arched portion of my window and the hallway entrance across ( both yellow) from it are going to get plugged equally to get better symetry. Then thick drapes will be hung from both window and hallway plugs.

Also i put the window and room entrance behind the listening area, as suggested by my books. Floor is thick concrete, and tile. Walls are mortared greek style bricks and covered with plaster. Roof is drywall.

i put my ceiling cloud at a slant....6" at the front and 1 foot at the rear. The 6" and 1 foot gap numbers arent based on anything. I had read from a thread that longer first reflections are better on the ceiling. But i dont know whether i should slant the cloud or not.

Feel free to give me ideas, suggestions, criticism etc...

couple shots to show window and closet and hallway:









First variation

My favorite from the asthetics point of view. plus the cloud extends over the listening position.








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second variation: cloud shortened and bass trap in front of it. Although i dont think i like that set up.







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variation 3: bass trap in front of cloud removed. cloud shorter than first variation.







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variation 4: my least favorite, but i had to consider it.







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*crickets*





*cough*

lol.


i gave it over a week......

not one reply? did i give too much info?? am i completely headed in the wrong direction?

your silence makes me nervous...
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No need to be nervous, and we still like you. I didn't post because I don't see any real questions in there. This is a typical small rectangle room just like the 479 other typical small rectangle rooms we comment on here every day.

What are your specific questions? I can say that your drawings look fine.

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you are right.....not one question mark in my thread...

ok lets try this:

which variation would you choose...if any?

Do you have any suggestions as to different variations/arrangements/whatever?

thoughts on putting the ceiling cloud on an angle?
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Hi, just wanted to ask if the triangle is meant to indicate the monitoring setup..? It probably does..

It should close behind your head, not in it. In your scetchup the 'sweetspot' is sort of where your eyes are, not your ears.
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which variation would you choose...if any?
They all look like different views of the same basic concept. This is a small rectangle room. Don't over think it!

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Don't bother. Just hang the cloud 2 to 6 inches down form the ceiling.

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Hi, just wanted to ask if the triangle is meant to indicate the monitoring setup..? It probably does..

It should close behind your head, not in it. In your scetchup the 'sweetspot' is sort of where your eyes are, not your ears.


ya, the monitors will be turned outward more to extend the listening sweet spot...wont be an exact triangle like that....just did it to get a rough idea.
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They all look like different views of the same basic concept. This is a small rectangle room. Don't over think it!



Don't bother. Just hang the cloud 2 to 6 inches down form the ceiling.

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great...ill take that as a confirmation my set-up is good. thanks for the stamp of approval......thumbsup

studio construction shall now commence.stike
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do you guys think it would be ok to start building room treatments before i do a room analysis? ( not going to install the panels, just have them ready, cause i want to do a before and after)

i ordered a mic and pre-amp for REW, but its going to take a couple weeks to get it....right now i have a lot of free time...

i thought i could start building the starters, like first relection panels, super chunks, bass traps and ceiling cloud...

REW is going to tell me what i need more or less of correct? But no matter what, its pretty standard to have at least first relection panel, bass traps and ceiling clouds right?

im going to have a really live room, concrete/tile floor and brick walls....if anything, i will probably having to make a lot more panels that the "minimum" i think...
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REW is going to tell me what i need more or less of correct? But no matter what, its pretty standard to have at least first relection panel, bass traps and ceiling clouds right?
No, and Yes.

All REW can show you is where the problems are (all frequencies), and how much better thing became after you added all the treatment listed.

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so....

start now?

or

wait?
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Now.
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One little change I would do is put 2 panels on each side wall in the early reflection point instead of one. It will help broaden the "sweet spot" so as you move your head you will not get reflections from the side walls.
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One little change I would do is put 2 panels on each side wall in the early reflection point instead of one. It will help broaden the "sweet spot" so as you move your head you will not get reflections from the side walls.
glenn,

its hard to see from the renderings, but there is in fact 2 panels on each sidewall for first reflections...

everything else look ok?

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hey guys, another question....

should i make my 1st reflections panels movable? I had been doing some reading, and some guys were saying they had to move the panels, do a room analysis, move the panels, room analysis etc a number of times to get it where they wanted it....

i plan on determing the location of the sidewall, rear wall and ceiling wall 1st reflection points with the mirror method...

i was thinking about putting the panels on stands, then secure them once im certain thats where they are going to go...so i dont end up with a bunch of holes in my walls
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