Help with my square room

[adsmithy]

Hi,

I need some suggestions on my bedroom.

The room is 3.5mx3.5mx~2.5m with solid concrete walls. Carpet with rug. Window with blind.

When I'm listening I sit at my computer. Due to it being my bedroom I can't sit in the middle of the room.

Please excuse the mess.



Basic layout of room:



It doesn't sound very good. From my listening position I can't hear the sub. When I go and stand in the doorway the bass is extremely loud.

The room has too much echo.

I'd love some suggestions on how to make it sound good. I have good kit and my room is not doing it justice.

On another note, I am looking to do some amatuer producing in the future.

Any help would be appreciated!

Many thanks,
Adrian

[Ethan Winer]

You need to rotate your setup so you're facing left, toward the window. More here:

How to set up a room

Then all of the standard advice follows: As many corner bass traps as you can manage, plus absorbers at the side-wall and ceiling reflection points.

--Ethan

[Brainchild]

It looks like you have a blank slate to start with, so I'll throw a few basic suggestions out there. Since this is an actual bedroom with an actual bed, you may be tempted to say, "but I can't do that." With that in mind, these are some things you should do if you want the room to sound its best.

First, position the desk in the center of one of the walls. That way, the speakers are the same distance from either side wall. Since it's a square room, it doesn't make much difference which wall. The corner placement you currently have is roughly the worst place the setup could be, so you can look forward to improvement just with that simple step.

Second, I would think about getting the speakers up on higher stands so that they clear the surface of your desk. I can't tell what the driver configuration is in those speakers, but you're probably getting a skewed signal with them as low as they are.

Third, you will have to try moving your subwoofer around until it gives you the response you're looking for at the mix position. In the center of the wall opposite the computer desk could work, but it's a matter of actually testing it until you find a place that works.

Fourth, without which the Third suggestion above is worse than useless, you should apply bass traps liberally as described to an endless extent on this and other forums.

[adsmithy]

Originally Posted by Ethan Winer

You need to rotate your setup so you're facing left, toward the window. More here:

How to set up a room

Then all of the standard advice follows: As many corner bass traps as you can manage, plus absorbers at the side-wall and ceiling reflection points.

--Ethan

Thanks for that I shall have a read.

I can't really face towards the window as it has a radiator below it.

Would facing the window wall be the ideal? Because I could try it if it would give the best results. (It's just not the easiest location for practicality due to the radiator.)

[adsmithy]

Originally Posted by Brainchild

It looks like you have a blank slate to start with, so I'll throw a few basic suggestions out there. Since this is an actual bedroom with an actual bed, you may be tempted to say, "but I can't do that." With that in mind, these are some things you should do if you want the room to sound its best.

First, position the desk in the center of one of the walls. That way, the speakers are the same distance from either side wall. Since it's a square room, it doesn't make much difference which wall. The corner placement you currently have is roughly the worst place the setup could be, so you can look forward to improvement just with that simple step.

Second, I would think about getting the speakers up on higher stands so that they clear the surface of your desk. I can't tell what the driver configuration is in those speakers, but you're probably getting a skewed signal with them as low as they are.

Third, you will have to try moving your subwoofer around until it gives you the response you're looking for at the mix position. In the center of the wall opposite the computer desk could work, but it's a matter of actually testing it until you find a place that works.

Fourth, without which the Third suggestion above is worse than useless, you should apply bass traps liberally as described to an endless extent on this and other forums.

Thank you. All points taken on board.

Just an idea, but regarding placement. Would putting the desk diagonally in a corner with speakers either side be good/bad?

[Ethan Winer]

Originally Posted by adsmithy

I can't really face towards the window as it has a radiator below it.

A radiator is fine. Just set up a foot or so away to let the heat out.

--Ethan

[Jesse Eastman]

Originally Posted by adsmithy

Thank you. All points taken on board.

Just an idea, but regarding placement. Would putting the desk diagonally in a corner with speakers either side be good/bad?

This isn't good speaker placement. Try placing them along your longest wall if possible.

[adsmithy]

The window is located along the longest wall.

Just checking, but would setting up nearest the window be better then using the opposite wall (with the doorway)?

Thanks for the help.

[eray]

The window is located along the longest wall ??

a longer wall in a square room ? How is that possible ?

my room is 3.68 x 3.65 m., which i think must be considered as a square one.

i'm planing to place my monitors diagonally.

any suggestions ?

[SaSi_SiDi]

I am not sure about the dimensions of the bed and closets or whether they can be moved easily.

Is the suggested alterntive arangement feasible? The green strips represent suggested absorbers. The diagonaly placed ones in the "front" corners, behind the speakers should be thicker (4") bass traps. I also think that a 4" large panel above the new suggested bed position would help.

[adsmithy]

Originally Posted by SaSi_SiDi

I am not sure about the dimensions of the bed and closets or whether they can be moved easily.

Is the suggested alterntive arangement feasible? The green strips represent suggested absorbers. The diagonaly placed ones in the "front" corners, behind the speakers should be thicker (4") bass traps. I also think that a 4" large panel above the new suggested bed position would help.

That's the exact layout I have changed to.

My room is actually 3.5x3.7m. The wall with the window is the longest.

I will look into the acoustic treatment you have suggested, thank you.

Adrian

[SaSi_SiDi]

Hmm. I just realized this is a revived old thread. Well, better late than never.