Gearslutz.com

All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > Studio building / acoustics > Bass traps, acoustic panels, foam etc


New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 3rd July 2009   #1
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 42

Thread Starter
Post Stuffing insulation in the ceiling

Hi there,

Just wanted to ask a question. Would you say it's worthwhile to stuff insulation in the roof ?

I was thinking of a way to reduce decay times without having so many panels in the room and thought of perhaps stuffing fluffy fiberglass bales in the attic crawl space that I have. Would I be wasting my time or do you think it can make a worthwhile difference ? Has anyone here stuffed their roof space with insulation and has it made a positive improvement ?

I've already got 4 tri-traps (stacked from floor to ceiling in the two front corners) and 3 244 panels and the differences it's made has been significant. But certain songs still sound muddy or boomy, even after treatment. I'm sure several people have done this so your opinions on this would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Regards,
goneten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2009   #2
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 42

Thread Starter
Anyone ?

Regards,
goneten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th July 2009   #3
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 42

Thread Starter
Well, thanks guys for the help. Truly appreciate it.

Regards,
goneten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th July 2009   #4
Gear Guru
 
Glenn Kuras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 11,003

Would the fluffy fiberglass go above a drop ceiling? If so then yes, but if going above a hard ceiling then no it really is not going to help.
You may want to contact us to go over your layout of the treatment and your mix spot. We may be able to move things around to yield a better sound or give some recommendations on some other treatment.
__________________
Glenn Kuras
GIK Acoustics USA
GIK Acoustics Europe
770 986 2789 (USA)
+44 (0) 20 7558 8976 (UK)

See the NEW Soffit Bass Trap
Glenn Kuras is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 5th July 2009   #5
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 42

Thread Starter
Hi Glenn,

I have a solid ceiling. I was hoping that if I put in sufficient insulation that it would make a worthwhile difference, perhaps to lower frequencies (perhaps at 50 Hz and below). Keep in mind that I don't have any EQ in my system. I sold the Velodyne SMS-1 (which I used to EQ the system) so I have zero EQ right now. For all I know, the elevated room peaks might be giving me the impression of a bit of boom on the lower frequencies. Or it's possible that I still have quite a bit of ringing left over. I know that when I used the SMS-1 before, my frequency response looked like crap. I haven't measured my response since.

Thing is, most music sounds tight and well defined, others sound a bit muddy but the bass is also lower down I think. It's not 80 Hz or anything that I'm having a problem with, I think. To be honest, it might be 60 Hz and down. I've only covered two corners, floor to ceiling and it's made a huge difference, don't get me wrong. But at this stage, I'm getting grief from my significant other and I was hoping for a solution of sorts without imposing further with more panels. I mean, I would love to just put another several panels in to complete the sonic picture but at this point in time, that will be very difficult. I'll need to do some serious convincing and I don't think I'll win.

Thanks again.

Regards,
goneten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #6
Gear addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Spreewald, near Berlin / Germany
Posts: 316

Send a message via Skype™ to spm_gl
I guess it depends how solid your ceiling really is. But if it's more than 20kg/m², it won't make any difference. If it's sheetrock, you have a chance, but I'd rather suggest bass-trapping under the ceiling. Stuffing it will improve your sound insulation though.
__________________
--- Spreemusik ---
Jan Fuchsmann, Audio Engineer
Our new Blog: http://blog.spreemusik.com
spm_gl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #7
Gear Guru
 
Glenn Kuras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 11,003

Like said, give us a call or email and lets see if we can maximize that you have already. You would be surprised how moving stuff around could help.
Glenn Kuras is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #8
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 42

Thread Starter
Cool, thanks Glenn. I'll send an email your way. Thanks spm_gl for the advice.

Regards,
goneten is offline   Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
did i use too much R30 insulation in my ceiling ejsongs Bass traps, acoustic panels, foam etc 5 13th August 2009 12:54 PM
Stuffing drop ceiling with Safe n Sound? AdamWathan Bass traps, acoustic panels, foam etc 3 26th June 2009 06:37 PM
Vaulted Ceiling insulation Swingfingers Studio building / acoustics 6 8th May 2009 04:37 PM
Ceiling Insulation Question + Ducts BlueAx Bass traps, acoustic panels, foam etc 3 7th May 2009 09:18 PM
stuffing an APEX 210? johndykstra Low End Theory 0 22nd February 2008 08:36 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:30 PM.

 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com Limited - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office: 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.

SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.