General question

Nu Mixer · 1st July 2009, 06:28 PM

Does using just a small set of nearfields (like NS10's with no sub) diminish the acoustics of the room and require less treatment?

As of now, I have 9 bass traps (Realtraps and Gik), skyline diffusion on the back wall and the proper mount of absorption. But I'm still having bass issues.

I'm thinking of getting rid of my monitors and getting NS10's and a nice Bryston.

Opinions?

tINY · 1st July 2009, 06:32 PM

No.

Run a HPF on your main outs at about 300Hz and most of your issues will clear up, though.

-tINY

Glenn Kuras · 1st July 2009, 06:38 PM

Try moving forward and back to see if you get more bass. If so then it is how you are setup, if it does not get any better then it is the monitors.

Ethan Winer · 1st July 2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nu Mixer

Does using just a small set of nearfields (like NS10's with no sub) diminish the acoustics of the room and require less treatment?

iTINY already gave you the right answer - No. I have seen this recommended a few times, but it makes no sense. Yes, you won't hear low bass problems anymore, but you won't hear any low bass either. So foot steps and other rumbling type noises that should be high-passed out when mixing will end up in the track because you couldn't hear them. All in all it's a bad idea, along the lines of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

--Ethan

tINY · 1st July 2009, 08:45 PM

That's the point. If your room has problems, and you find a speaker (or EQ) that "solves" the problems, you are not getting a clear picture of what is going on.

This is fine for listening to Sheena Easton while winding down after a hard day, but is a bad strategy for mixing.

-tINY

Weasel9992 · 2nd July 2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tINY

This is fine for listening to Sheena Easton while winding down after a hard day, but is a bad strategy for mixing.

Oooohhh...Sheena Easton would sound bad with a 300Hz HPF.

Frank

Lupo · 2nd July 2009, 11:46 PM

Found a pair of NS10m's, a 75w yamaha amp and a CD players for the silly price of $60 some months ago.. An offer I certainly couldn't refuse! Have heard the NS10's in various rooms before and never been that impressed. In my well treated mastering room, they actually sound surprisingly good! The bass end can be heard too, albeit very low, as they roll off gently below the 70Hz cutoff. That I attribute to tons of bass trapping - not the speakers!

1st July 2009, 06:28 PM	#1
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1st July 2009, 06:32 PM	#2
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 8,854	No. Run a HPF on your main outs at about 300Hz and most of your issues will clear up, though. -tINY

1st July 2009, 08:45 PM	#5
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 8,854	That's the point. If your room has problems, and you find a speaker (or EQ) that "solves" the problems, you are not getting a clear picture of what is going on. This is fine for listening to Sheena Easton while winding down after a hard day, but is a bad strategy for mixing. -tINY

2nd July 2009, 11:46 PM	#7
Lupo Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 1,164	Found a pair of NS10m's, a 75w yamaha amp and a CD players for the silly price of $60 some months ago.. An offer I certainly couldn't refuse! Have heard the NS10's in various rooms before and never been that impressed. In my well treated mastering room, they actually sound surprisingly good! The bass end can be heard too, albeit very low, as they roll off gently below the 70Hz cutoff. That I attribute to tons of bass trapping - not the speakers!