mounting OWENS CORNING PANELS??

[infinitedreams84]

Hello all! This has been one obstacle after another for me but I'm very appreciative of any help you can give me on this matter. I have several acoustical panels I am making:

They are each consisting of 2 OC 703 2" for a total of 4" per acoustical panel. These are just covered up in burlap, and I am trying to figure out the best way to mount these to the wall. For the ceiling I'll be using the Rotofast, but I was wondering what ya'll would recommend for mounting to the wall since I'm not building a frame for these. Where would the hooks go into since I'd assume they don't go directly into the OC? Thanks!

[jwl]

without a frame it will be tough. Some people impale the rigid fiberglass on nails sticking out from the wall, but it's hard to get an airgap that way.

[Dopamine]

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm getting ready to install some fabric-coated 703 in a wooden frame above my carpeted vocal tracking area (home studio w/ 8' ceilings). Is it a good idea to leave an "air gap" as opposed to just attacking it to the ceiling? If so, what is the optimal size of the gap?

Also, should it be hanging at a slight angle or completely straight?

thanks!

[Glenn Kuras]

Where would the hooks go into since I'd assume they don't go directly into the OC?

are you trying to straddle the panel in a corner?

[Glenn Kuras]

Is it a good idea to leave an "air gap" as opposed to just attacking it to the ceiling? If so, what is the optimal size of the gap?

The gap should be the thickness of the panel. So if 2" leave a 2" gap.

Also, should it be hanging at a slight angle or completely straight?

Straight

[bpape]

If the back of the panel has exposed fiberglass, you can just use impaling clips. If it's all cloth, then I'd just sew some strapping to it and hang it over a hook.

Bryan

[Ethan Winer]

Originally Posted by Dopamine

what is the optimal size of the gap?

Glenn gave you the right answer, and here's the source and background explanation:

Optimizing the air gap

--Ethan

[infinitedreams84]

I would like to have some panels straddling corners, two behind the monitors (with air gap), and a couple of clouds above the mixing position. I guess that is why I was trying to figure out the hooks scenario, given that I don't have any sewing skills, and I can't figure out where to place hooks without a wooden frame support. Thanks!

[Dopamine]

Thanks Glenn and Ethan!

[Glenn Kuras]

Originally Posted by infinitedreams84

I would like to have some panels straddling corners, two behind the monitors (with air gap), and a couple of clouds above the mixing position. I guess that is why I was trying to figure out the hooks scenario, given that I don't have any sewing skills, and I can't figure out where to place hooks without a wooden frame support. Thanks!

I can't help you so much on the ceiling, but for the corners just set me into the corner on the floor.

Glenn

[bpape]

If you can't sew, you can always cut a small slit in the back of the fabric and staple a strap on. For corner mounting, just use a longer strap and 1 hook in the corner.

Bryan

[Glenn Kuras]

call this guy..

[Ethan Winer]

Hey, that's the guy in my Gorgar pinball machine!

[infinitedreams84]

My office mates probably think I'm nuts these posts are totally making me laugh out loud! Thanks for your help guys! I'll try that and see how it works. Also, I was curious about these new diffusion panels I got that are made of some plastic material. Since they are too hard to tack on the walls, can I just glue them onto cardboard backing and tack THAT onto the wall? Or would that make the diffusion lose its effectiveness?
The diffusors are called minifusors by auralex, and are 5" deep 1ftX1ft and hollow. Thanks again!

[Glenn Kuras]

sure you could do that.

[infinitedreams84]

Awesome! I'm sorry about all these continuous questions but one idea keeps leading to another I keep reading on here (correct me if I'm wrong), where people mention that its best not to cover the whole OC panel with fabric (ie: not the whole back). Is there a particular reason for this? I have enough fabric to cover all of it if it doesn't hurt, and am also concerned about any remaining uncovered parts leaking fibers into the air. Thanks guys/gals!

[macc]

I've just made a load of my own traps/panels etc. I say made, I mean, wrapped some fibreglass panels in Ikea fabric ... I say 'I' but I mean, I roped my girlfriend in to help

Anyway - no frames here cos I m hopeless with wood etc. I'm having very good success with (no laughing) high-strength spray mounting and the industrial-strength Velcro.

Little 4" strips of one side of the Velcro stuck to the wall in the appropriate places (hold it up and mark with a pencil), stick the other side of the Velcro to the fabric/panel with a load of spray mount. Let it all dry for at LEAST an hour * and then be amazed. It actually works

* I learned that the hard way when half a panel came down on my head

[jwl]

Originally Posted by infinitedreams84

I keep reading on here (correct me if I'm wrong), where people mention that its best not to cover the whole OC panel with fabric (ie: not the whole back). Is there a particular reason for this? I have enough fabric to cover all of it if it doesn't hurt, and am also concerned about any remaining uncovered parts leaking fibers into the air. Thanks guys/gals!

Nah, that's nonsense. Cover the entire panel, unless you like breathing fiberglass. ;-)

Someone probably misunderstood an objection about covering the back of a panel with plywood (DON'T DO THIS!!!) or something.

[Glenn Kuras]

Originally Posted by infinitedreams84

Awesome! I'm sorry about all these continuous questions but one idea keeps leading to another I keep reading on here (correct me if I'm wrong), where people mention that its best not to cover the whole OC panel with fabric (ie: not the whole back). Is there a particular reason for this? I have enough fabric to cover all of it if it doesn't hurt, and am also concerned about any remaining uncovered parts leaking fibers into the air. Thanks guys/gals!

Who ever told you that is wrong.. You can cover the back with no problem at all.