vaulted ceiling reflection reduction advice requested

Captain Crunch · 14th June 2008, 09:43 PM

hello selfless advice givers, thanks for all that you do here!

I have a vaulted ceiling in my studio, which is a converted garage. Its fully drywalled everywhere, with plaster on top of that. My floor is carpet over pad over concrete.

I have some pretty annoying flutter echos coming from the ceiling, so I've built some 1" thick 2' x 4' panels, out of UltraTouch insulation. I will address bass trapping later for the side walls, right now I'm just trying to deaden reflections. They will be hanging about 3" from the actual surface.

Dims are 14' at the peak, and about 11' x 16' for the shape.

My question is, should the 6 panels I have made mirror each other, for symmetry? Or be staggered for asymmetry? I put one up, and its already helping.

avare · 14th June 2008, 10:09 PM

What is the room? Control or tracking? What design concept if control? If tracking, symmetry is not important, other than where do want the objectionable echo to be?

Why are you not doing bass trapping in the ceiling? Bass traps in/on the walls will reduce the area of the room. In the ceiling it will reduce nothing of significance.

Andre

Captain Crunch · 14th June 2008, 10:45 PM

it's an editing room mostly, I track virtually nothing. I'd like to mix, so I want better accuracy.

I'm not actually trying to bass trap in the ceiling, just kill reflections. Its "pingy" up there.

I'll deal with bass management later, I just don't have time to deal with everything simultaneously.

avare · 14th June 2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

it's an editing room mostly, I track virtually nothing. I'd like to mix, so I want better accuracy.

Symmetry is important then.

Quote:

I'm not actually trying to bass trap in the ceiling, just kill reflections. Its "pingy" up there.

I'll deal with bass management later, I just don't have time to deal with everything simultaneously.

Trying to be diplomatic, the main difference between a normal absorber and bass trap in home studio application is absorber thickness. Because of different materials used for bass traps, bass traps can be cheaper than normal absorbers, if there is depth for them. Bass traps still absorb highs. It is not bass tuned.

IOW it may save you money and room area to build bass absorption into the ceiling now.

Andre

Weasel9992 · 15th June 2008, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avare

IOW it may save you money and room area to build bass absorption into the ceiling now.

I completely agree with Andre...all of his reasoning is solid. Treating with bass traps will probably be a more efficient solution.

Frank

Captain Crunch · 15th June 2008, 02:27 AM

cool, thanks guys.

The panels I made are being mounted with simple hook and eyes, so swapping them out will be easy if it seems I need more substantial traps way up there.

cheers!

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Captain Crunch Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR/ L.A. Posts: 90	vaulted ceiling reflection reduction advice requested hello selfless advice givers, thanks for all that you do here! I have a vaulted ceiling in my studio, which is a converted garage. Its fully drywalled everywhere, with plaster on top of that. My floor is carpet over pad over concrete. I have some pretty annoying flutter echos coming from the ceiling, so I've built some 1" thick 2' x 4' panels, out of UltraTouch insulation. I will address bass trapping later for the side walls, right now I'm just trying to deaden reflections. They will be hanging about 3" from the actual surface. Dims are 14' at the peak, and about 11' x 16' for the shape. My question is, should the 6 panels I have made mirror each other, for symmetry? Or be staggered for asymmetry? I put one up, and its already helping. Attached Thumbnails

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14th June 2008, 10:09 PM	#2
avare Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, On Canada Posts: 832	What is the room? Control or tracking? What design concept if control? If tracking, symmetry is not important, other than where do want the objectionable echo to be? Why are you not doing bass trapping in the ceiling? Bass traps in/on the walls will reduce the area of the room. In the ceiling it will reduce nothing of significance. Andre

14th June 2008, 10:45 PM	#3
Captain Crunch Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR/ L.A. Posts: 90	it's an editing room mostly, I track virtually nothing. I'd like to mix, so I want better accuracy. I'm not actually trying to bass trap in the ceiling, just kill reflections. Its "pingy" up there. I'll deal with bass management later, I just don't have time to deal with everything simultaneously.

15th June 2008, 02:27 AM	#6
Captain Crunch Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR/ L.A. Posts: 90	cool, thanks guys. The panels I made are being mounted with simple hook and eyes, so swapping them out will be easy if it seems I need more substantial traps way up there. cheers!