ROXUL

[BassTerd]

Does anybody know were I can get some Roxul RHT40 in los angeles? Any idea on what it cost.

[Glenn Kuras]

Originally Posted by chingon

Does anybody know were I can get some Roxul RHT40 in los angeles? Any idea on what it cost.

Check to see if you have a SPI in your area.

Glenn

[BassTerd]

What/who is SPI?

[Glenn Kuras]

Specialty Products & Insulation Co.

[BassTerd]

No luck with those guys. The closet place they had was San Fransico.
Thanks

[Almy]

I ordered mine from Owens Corning 703, Roxul Mineral Wool, and Other Acoustic Materials

If you have no luck getting any in your area and don't mind paying a little in shipping. It was actually less than I thought it would be.

[BassTerd]

Originally Posted by Almy

I ordered mine from Owens Corning 703, Roxul Mineral Wool, and Other Acoustic Materials

If you have no luck getting any in your area and don't mind paying a little in shipping. It was actually less than I thought it would be.

Yea i had a buddy that just got some from these guys. Came out to about $80 for a 6 pack shipped.

[KingUgly]

Service Partners Supply
909-947-0319

Huge warehouse. They have most everything.

[Crash]

Is that this company?

Service Partners

[BassTerd]

Just called up service partners. The RHT 40 isn't something they carry as a stock item and they would have to special order it by the truckload. So the clerk i spoke with said they have a bunch of Rockboard 40 that was ordered by accident and its been sitting at the warehouse and they want to get rid of it. The thing is it has the FSK facing that i won't need. Has anybody used this brand with the FSK and peeled it off? I'm wondering if its easy to do or how much damage can be caused to the board.
Here's coefficient frequencies on the rockboard 40
http://www.roxul.com/graphics/RX-NA/...d40-8-7-07.pdf
Not sure what these numbers mean yet as i don't know what they represent but would this be good enough?

[BassTerd]

I took a trip to CWCI in the city of industry which happens to be around a mile away from me because they said they carried roxul. Of course when i showed up they didn't have it in stock, go figure. So the clerk sold me some other mineral called IIG 1260.
The Absorption Coefficients are for this 2inch stuff is on this link:
http://www.iig-llc.com/pdfs/IIG-402.pdf

When i got home i read the bag and this stuff has formaldehyde. Does anybody know how long it well take for my nervous system and lungs to go to shit from the off gassing by hanging this crap up?

Glenn, does the mineral wool in your 244 traps (i have 4 of them) contain formaldehyde?

I'm just wondering how long it will take me to die by acoustically treating my room..

[Mushy]

Originally Posted by Almy

I ordered mine from Owens Corning 703, Roxul Mineral Wool, and Other Acoustic Materials

If you have no luck getting any in your area and don't mind paying a little in shipping. It was actually less than I thought it would be.

It's WAY cheaper if you buy it from a distributor. There's an email form on the Roxul site and if you ask them they will send you a list of local distributors. I get that stuff for about 45¢ a square foot. ATS marks up by at least double, and you have pay crazy shipping for an oversized box.

[Almy]

I actually checked before ordering from ats. Unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere. There were two places in town that could have gotten it for me, but both could only get Owens Corning. On top of that neither would even place the order until their next large shipment, each place was about a minimum of a two month wait.

I could have spent a bit of gas money heading an hour and a half out (and back) but I got 6 2 inch rockboards (6lb per) for $80 shipped to my door. Not too bad considering my options.

Edit: Heh, one correction. Fed Ex actually delivered it about a block away. So a stranger walked out to find insulation on his porch :P.

[Implicit]

Originally Posted by chingon

Glenn, does the mineral wool in your 244 traps (i have 4 of them) contain formaldehyde?

I'd be interested in this too...

[silverdisk]

I dont think there is any " mineral wool " that DOES NOT use formaldehyde binders in them. Could it be any more frustrating?, something that works well for acoustics at a reasonable price, but oops, it might be poisonous. My guess is the companies have an unspoken "use at your own risk policy", because i havent seen much discussion about this from the companies themselves. Its too bad, because most of these traps are gonna be crammed in a small, not too well ventilated room somewhere compounding the possible effects. Fwiw my diy attempts with these materials make me feel unhealthy, regardless of the meticulousness of fabric wrapping, cleaning, etc. your mileage may vary however, this is just my experience, others seem to not notice any effect. good luck

[BassTerd]

Originally Posted by silverdisk

I dont think there is any " mineral wool " that DOES NOT use formaldehyde binders in them. Could it be any more frustrating?, something that works well for acoustics at a reasonable price, but oops, it might be poisonous. My guess is the companies have an unspoken "use at your own risk policy", because i havent seen much discussion about this from the companies themselves. Its too bad, because most of these traps are gonna be crammed in a small, not too well ventilated room somewhere compounding the possible effects. Fwiw my diy attempts with these materials make me feel unhealthy, regardless of the meticulousness of fabric wrapping, cleaning, etc. your mileage may vary however, this is just my experience, others seem to not notice any effect. good luck

yup...i sort of know the answer to my own question but was looking for input and opinions from other folks.
The United Nations sets the standards for the building codes and materials used in buildings all over the world. They also make manufactures place certain chemicals in the materials that are meant to off gas for many many years. This crap eventually makes you sick and maybe kills you. (Disturbing stuff) The U.N. also have a population control department whose job it is to find ways to lower down the population. and they have published lots of material regarding the purpose of this kind of crap as well as its agenda. So there is a reason we live in houses built with Popsicle sticks and chalk that the big bad wolf can blow down and why the paper boxes we live in are built with some really hazardous chemicals that can kill.
This stuff isn't exactly a secret, but thats a whole other post on another forum.

Back to building more traps and breathing in tiny fibers that will eventually shred my lungs and inhaling formaldehyde to help my embalming process for the morgue.
First i have to get off this laptop that is frying my balls (literally) and making me impotent (as thats one of its purposes) and take a shower with water filled with fluoride (used to lower peoples I.Q's) and chlorine (destroys immune system) get dressed with clothes that are laced with formaldehyde (part of the manufacturing process of making cloths) and start my day off with some genetically modified food for lunch. dfegad

[Implicit]

Originally Posted by silverdisk

My guess is the companies have an unspoken "use at your own risk policy", because i havent seen much discussion about this from the companies themselves. Its too bad, because most of these traps are gonna be crammed in a small, not too well ventilated room somewhere compounding the possible effects.

I agree that transparency is the key to good ethical business, but when you make a product who's main ingredient is derived in a way that you can't control I guess you have make some decisions on what is better for business. Do any of the major trap providers have warnings/notices on their products regarding off-gassing / particulates?

If you're looking for an alternative to using Fiberglass and Rock Wool there is always Cotton: Acousticotton