shaman´s absorber build thread

[TheArchitect]

Originally Posted by Shaman

Hi jiindrich,

I actually used the bigger frames for the "drum corner" of my recording room - especially on the hihat side to avoid those nasty early reflections.

My concept for the control room was more a mixed pattern from absorbtion and reflection. I experimented alot and through having more wall space between them the smaller frames create a nicer spatial image in the end. Too big areas of absorbtion easily make the room muddy.

The very small frames ( say 10 x 5 cm) would have been even better -creating allmost some kind of diffusion but this would have been a lot more work.

2nd reason for the smaller frames is visual - many small elements make a small room look bigger than little big ones...



Right, less is more in the end.
I find myself using more and more the same stuff (gml + neve) and if I need something else the other day I eventually use...errr gml + neve hrhr..

I removed the side racks cause I found it really strange to tweak things not being in the sweet spot.
Now everything is in hands reach - right the one rack is a bit near the left quested - doesn´t make much of a difference since tweeter still is in sightline.

How do you like the Nady's as OH's? Did you put any treatment on the ceiling above them? Are the reflections from the ceiling hitting the back of the mics an issue?

[Shaman]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

How do you like the Nady's as OH's? Did you put any treatment on the ceiling above them? Are the reflections from the ceiling hitting the back of the mics an issue?

I like them very much for a very fat OH sound - you need very good pres since they require tons of gain - having good results with gml & neve.
My new favourites for a punchy/detailed OH sound are dpa 4006s.

My recording room ceiling has broadband absorbers everywhere so reflection from there is no issue.

[TheArchitect]

Originally Posted by Shaman

I like them very much for a very fat OH sound - you need very good pres since they require tons of gain - having good results with gml & neve.
My new favourites for a punchy/detailed OH sound are dpa 4006s.

My recording room ceiling has broadband absorbers everywhere so reflection from there is no issue.

I see. Do you have more pics of what you have done online anywhere?

[Shaman]

Nope only what´s allready on this forum.
Eventually I´ll post some of my other easy/affordable accoustic/studio solutions here...let´s see

[greatgreatriver]

I'm curious about your ceiling - I'm about to DIY my drum spot very soon - maybe we could start a new thread about ceiling love later...

A tiny request; do you have any pix of the ceiling :)

[RedOne]

I like your sexy hands!!!

[Shaman]

red ol´mate LOL
Nice to see ya on the do it yourself channel

[andreªs]

I'm getting jealous...

[Shaman]

Hey Andreas,
Good to know all the munich slutz around the vorweihnachtliche Studiobastelstunde LOL

Ikea Eching has at least 300 frames in stock - don´t make the mistake to go there on "family days" like saturday. Money saved on absorbers will have to be spent on therapist later.

BTW "jealousy" ...
I´ve got W.´s tonecontrols for demo this moment...damn these rule...and there´s no such a thing like a ****ing introduction price in november 2007 Aaaaaargh

What about this: I allow you to build say 30 frames incl. shaman´s design licence WUP for 2 years and you give me your chandlers in exchange...hm

[big-king-rb]

ehe cool...

i will do this absorbers too!... but i have to drive to ikea eching on saturday!! boahahah.....
how deep are this frames=?
i will use homaterm wool.... i got some really good acustic in my other room with this material.

your studio looking great @shaman !!

[Shaman]

Originally Posted by big-king-rb

ehe cool...
i will do this absorbers too!... but i have to drive to ikea eching on saturday!! boahahah.....
how deep are this frames=?

Ah...freising in the house...hi there...We are getting to a point now where I think IKEA should give me some percentage of their new RIBBA profit - and ACM to pay me monthly WUP not to give away all the good stuff hrhr....frames are 4cms deep. Greetings from the hood

[bino_5150]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

Very Cool. I wish the rigid insulation was available more readily in the box stores around here. Its more than a chore to find a source and arrange for shipping.

I did something very similar but used 6 inch deep frames filled with R19 insulation\

http://members.toast.net/dwyss/pics/Room1.jpg
http://members.toast.net/dwyss/pics/Room2.jpg
http://members.toast.net/dwyss/pics/Room3.jpg

I'm doing a similar project. Hows that working out for you?

I also have custom built monitor stands, and I am going to turn them into absorbers also. I will post pics...

[Shaman]

HI,

My absorbers still look and sound great.

Best luck with yours

shaman

[bino_5150]

so is that just an open frame or is there something on the back of them?

[Shaman]

No there´s a wood pannel on the backside - watch the pics

[big country]

I like the colors you used
nice job

[Shaman]

Thanxx the different greens make me feel like I´m in a forrest.

[bino_5150]

Originally Posted by Shaman

No there´s a wood pannel on the backside - watch the pics

ok cool... I couldn't really see in those 3 pics you posted. very nice.

[bino_5150]

Shaman, my bad, when I was asking about the frames, I was quoting TheArchitect about the ones he built. Sorry! I did see the pics with your board in the back.

[bigos]

I went to Ikea in wroclaw (breslau) and bought 4 of the frames for about 21 euros each, I guess that ikea is more expensive here in poland, they also have stained wood, black and sliver metal frames all for the same price. Im thinking of using that thick material that you put on the floor before you lay carpet.

[bino_5150]

Originally Posted by bigos

Im thinking of using that thick material that you put on the floor before you lay carpet.

That thick material is foam, and can be had at any Home Depot, or Lowes, or any other home improvement store for anywhere from $1.50 to $3.50 per linear foot.

It does the trick on the highs and such but you will have to layer it pretty thick to get any kind of bass absorption.

The price is right, though...

[Ibvee]

Shaman,

I see you're attaching the fabric last. Is there a specific reason why you didn't insert the fabric first in the frame, and the Rockwool after?

You're studio looks great!
We're actually not that far apart, but still a little too far I think

[Shaman]

Originally Posted by Ibvee

Shaman,

I see you're attaching the fabric last. Is there a specific reason why you didn't insert the fabric first in the frame, and the Rockwool after?

This way I can fix the frame invisibly with screws on the wall + the frame sits tight on the wall.

If you try it right out you´ll see that it´s much easier to insert the fabric this way.

[Deep Deep Blue]

why the board on the back ? if its spaced away from the wall isn't it better ?

[Shaman]

I mounted the frames directly on the wall so I needed the backplate.
I´m not an accoustic expert and don´t know what the advantage of a different mounting would be...try it...in the case of an open surface I wouldn´t recommend mineral wool since it tends to dispense the particels to the air which is less than ideal for health.

[PlugHead]

Very nice and informative thread Shaman - I totally love the look of those!

It'd be even more revealing if you were to 'shoot' the room before and after and "see" what has changed. The bottom line is if they make the room sound better.

I've been putting off doing the same thing for some time - I need to devote the time and energy to the same detail, and hopefully with a semblance of taste as well!

I recall seeing a thread where someone used an Ikea bookcase (because of it's depth) to make bass traps - couldn't find it in a quick search - it also looked like a very cheap and easy way to make some bass traps.

cheers,

[mattianlaseppia]

nice is nice.. but it works?

[Shaman]

for me it works

[mattianlaseppia]

and how it works? i mean which are the benefit?