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Old 27th October 2006, 09:59 PM   #4
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figure 8 mics are going to be your friend here, unless your room sucks.

Position one mic lying horizontally somewhat with the null pointing as best it can toward the guitar.

position the other on the guitar using the same principle with the null aiming toward the voice.

recently I have had great success getting fairly isolated vocal and guitar tracks and was even able to recut a vocal with no problem as the bleed into the gtr mic was minimal. And in this case, the gtr bleed into the vocal was negligible! This was of course, in the live room which sounds great.

When we did another track with drums and the singer/gtr player was in the booth my dual figure 8's revealed just how crappy our booth sounds to me.....a drag.

this takes some experimenting and critical listening and I find it's easy to fvck up when you have it right--ooh maybe I'll move it a little more and make it better-- wrong!

I'm really sensitive to those phase issues too and they drive me crazy-- when using cardioid style mics on both gtr and voice--I hate it, it sounds like a comb filter phase shifter shitsandwich spread and it really annoys me when no one else in the control will admit to hearing it!

Chuck Ainlay mentioned he uses a small lav taped in the sound hole with Mark Knopfler with nearly total isolation and I really want to get my hands on a countryman isomax 2 or something like it to try--

figure of 8 dude.
go figure.
best of luck to you
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