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Originally Posted by joshelevator  is the area of 8.4 khz a known area for problems? i recently had some 808 hi-hats loud in the mix. i had cut everything below 6 k so they were nothing but high end which sounded good in the specific mix. i also had them loud-above the mix a bit. the master sounded great on cd but the hi-hats jumped off the vinyl in a way the annoyed me. now, im de-essing bright hi-hats above 7khz or so but would like to watch out from overdoing it. that is why im asking about your 8.4khz remark. i will continue to de-ess but would love to know any specific hi-end frequencies that seem to cause the most problems. thanks for the tips. ive also been rolling off a bit at the top. |
in my case 8.4 KHz was the problem. but dont stick to it.. i had very loud peaks coming from the male voice recording (actually holger czukay's fantastic voice) which made VERY annoying frequencies on the reference cut. this is a typical frequency that can get annoying when you record with a SHURE SM58 which was the case.
here is one rare case where analyzers are VERY useful...
just use a good one and check for occasional peaks that jump out of the curve. a good mix that will probably make not much problems usally "rolls off" towards the high-end.. for vinyl cuts it should not have blasting peaks at the high freq range at all! note that a mix can translate to CD pretty good and then the vinyl version has these clipping hihats.. i have heared that effect many times.
i am using Vincent Burel's Frequencies Analyzer (
www.vb.audio.com ) which gives me graphical control over peak and average energy...
since the CD sounded nice I had no reason why to look at the analyzer.. but after I had this problem I switced it on and found the peak quite immediately.. obviously jumping high and laughing at me.
also I had less problems with that particular track by dynamically and SUBTLY HF-limiting up of 3.6KHz with the good old Waves C1 (i am not a waves fan though, but the C1 is really useful sometimes).. you will still need a notchy de-esser for the particular peaks...
but be careful when HF-lmiting.. that is usally the cutters job...
robert