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Originally Posted by wwittman THIS I disagree with
the "talent" doesnt determine the recording method.
Unless you mean trying to make someone who can't play or sing sound 'acceptable'
but that's NEVER going to be great.
and it's rarely if ever WORTH DOING
I think for MOST people, it's a rationalisation.
Are you saying that you, with your "modern methods", would make the people YOU record sound better than Glyn would?
I doubt it.
(I don't mean just you, personally, Roland)
I think a lot of "modern" technique, is wheel spinning... that is, someone doesn't know where to put ONE mic to make it sound good so they end up needing strategies for 4 mics, and so on.
not that it's ALWAYS the case.
but often |
Sorry William, but I think you are reading me wrong. Glyn was/is a great engineer, but those techniques IMHO only work with the best of the best. Great drummer, great kit, great room 3-4 mics knock yourself out. You only had to watch Live 8 to see the difference between the old classic acts like Floyd and The Who, Stevie Wonder etc and compare them with some of the newer bands. Maybe its not their fault, possibly its the generation they have grown up with, but with 3-4 mic's on their kits they are going to (for a large part) sound like Sh*t. Multi-mic them, gratuitously replace their drum sounds with samples, pro-tooled and they start to sound reasonable. I was helping my wife in the kitchen on Saturday evening and for some reason the TV was switched to the X factor and I hadn't bothered to turn it off, the few kids that could sing spent their time effecting their voice with what could only be described as an annoying warbling/yodeling copied from the autotune effect on numerous chart singles. I fell about laughing because I knew they were copying it from records that they heard, (correction MP3's)! The truth is, most chart records are not made they way they were 20 years ago, Stock Aitkien and Waterman pushed the main market a different way, hence the closure of so many larger, professional facilities. I had a 22 year old lad who came to a mastering session I was doing for some friends of his band. He worked for a heavyweight songwriter as his assistant/engineer. Nice guy, but hadn't got a clue, hardly suprising as he'd only been at it a couple of years, however his CV read like a who's who, certainly would read better than mine, several top 10 UK hits that year, unfortunately you would have been stuffed if you wanted him to record a kit for you, their acts didn't have live drums...
Regards
Roland
Sorry it developed into a rant, but we all know the problems in the industry, it's just like films these days, no money punted on low budget good idea's, plenty thrown at formulaeic gonzo fodder. I think films were never the same when they started adding numbers after the title...