[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by Dave Reid

When someone pointed out he makes a living from modding equipment, he flaked..

Are you saying it was this?

Originally Posted by dbjp

I still don't understand the line of work Jim chose to pursue, given the fact that his stance is a complete 'ha, ha, ha' to customers of his that spent the extra bucks to make their equipment sound just that little bit better, when the modd'r himself claims nobody gives a shit what aesthetic an engineer has and what he or she tries to incorporate into any given record by chosing and using equipments of their choice.
So his ironic stance states: don't spend any money on equipments as listeners don't care. Don't pay me to mod your soundcraft/toft/etc or your mics, as listeners don't give a shit.

Well done Jim.

To be fair, this is what he was responding to: (keep in mind, this was the Rupert Neve 5088 announcement thread)

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

How does one make any money after spending $32,000 on a 16 channel mixer? I paid $550 for my Soundcraft Delta 16 channel and I thought I paid too much. I'm still trying to make that investment back, maybe this year?

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

What is suprising is people are suggesting you go out and pay $50,000 for a analog 16 channel console. The average audio guy, will have a hard time making that back.

If you have that money and want to play, great. Suggesting this is a good investment is what is suprising since there are not too many rooms willing to take that chance in today's market of downloads and free MP3's.

This is 2012, not 1990. Those investments must be made with a solid business plan or you too will lose your shirt like all those that came before you.

I want to hear from the guy that paid $50,000 for that console, who isn't rich and famous. Maybe he can tell us how much a 16 channel analog console can take in these days.

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

(after hearing the price) Is that for a stripped down model? How much for a fully fitted 8 channel?

In used console value that's about 48 eight channel consoles around here.

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

I'm not concerned about my $550 Soundcraft Delta 16 sending me to the poorhouse. It is paid off, is your 5088?

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

If you think that $50,000 16 channel console will help you sell CD's, put a pic of it on your next release and get back to us on how many units it sold for you.

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

The average listener could care less what console they used. Only audio dudes stress about that stuff.

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

It's still true, only audio "dudes" stress about audio minutia, the average person couldn't give a snot's ass. Go ask some if you don't belive me, just don't ask audio guys, but non audio people.