16th August 2012
Joined: Feb 2012
Location: Bay Area CA
+1 to all of this. I think it's perfectly fine to say you don't like something or that something doesn't connect with you but to write off a whole genre as not having any artistic/musical merit is just narrow thinking.
Originally Posted by C//AZM
Language is an ever evolving entity. People now call Instrumental R&B Jazz. People call two entire genres of music, Jazz and Rock and Roll names that were slang terms for F&$king. (whoo there's that word) Dozens of Rock and Funk songs call "The Bridge" something that is either a breakdown or a modulation. People say disco is dead yet it's all over the Billboard hot 100. Many people count 1,2,3,4 on a song that's clearly 6/8 and they screw up a simple Blues form. People mistake Mode for Key and I've seen many successful people mistakenly call an 9th chord a sus chord. Many engineers and manufacturers call 48 volts, phantom power even when there's a button. People call a Groove or Vamp a song. People say that improvising, add libbing R&B singers are using melisma.
Mainstream media and population has mis attributed "Hip-hop" with "Rap" to the point that there's no distinction, much to the irritation of those who know better. I've seen Jazz musicians get 3/4 confused with 3/8. Many great/ famous artists got the very simple You and I /you and Me thing mixed up. Many have said "Hypmatize" and "Every Since". There are countless Rock guys who sound silly imitating a southern blues accent and many many blues acts who constantly get the English language wrong all the time. Many famous Rockers totally miss the point of the blues form.
Many many people here on GS seem to not know the difference between your and You're.
This industry is fraught with incorrect labels and phrases. It's music, not English Lit. The former has driven the latter for hundreds of years why should it change now.
This is all beside the point isn't it? Music has evolved and the language has evolved yet there will always be a Davidsbundler railing against the Philistines. The strange thing is that they, like Schuman are almost always wrong. You are no exception.
I'd bet that most, if not ALL of these vile "beat" sayers know a better, more correct pronunciation of the term.
But why say isn't when Aint is so much better?
Really now? ALL of the "ghettoisms?"geesh you're swinging a long machete there. IMHO this says a lot more about you than it does about their intellect or them as artists or members of "Our People". I have personally heard people as diverse as Lauyrn Hill and Common to Lil John and Snoop use this term. They're all just ignorant stupid people?
You would've hated speaking to Jazz musicians in the 40s-60s where their every phrase or word -now part of the musical language- was seen as ignorant and incorrect and worse. So hold on to your shame and soon these "Ghetto isms" will be a full part of the American lexicon as have the thousands of other "Ghetto isms" before them stretching back to some old wooden boats. It will be ok then.
It always is.