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Originally Posted by brian_delizza I am not putting down fruity loops, but, it does not have the capabilities that other more advanced DAWs do.
You get what you pay for, and for the money it's good, but for the same price I think Ableton Live would do you better........In my many years of making music one of my personal goals is to improve efficiency, so as I progress, I do not see how I could possibly go back to FL and work as fast, even though I know that program inside and out. |
Brian, before you read on - please donīt take any of this personal.
Iīve been trying to make people switch to Live on this forum for quite a long time.
While Live has a unique workflow, it (until now) lacks some essential MIDI tools.
To dismiss FL because of itīs MIDI features is........bullshit.
I canīt think of a thing thatīs impossible on the MIDI side.......in fact, I canīt think of any other DAW besides maybe Logic and Energy XT, which letīs you work as fast and detailed (on the MIDI side) as FL. No, I will take that back.
There is NO DAW or hardware "DAW" with similar features that will let you work as fast as FL.
My only efficiency goal was to be able to produce LIVE.
I am able to by combining Live with FL.
The (internal) MIDI timing is ABSOLUTLY tight.
In fact, with a little help of my beat detector/envelope follower plug, my voice is the MPC.
And it doesnīt get tighter/more "human" than that.
The first time I heard your music, I thought it was done with FL (I didnīt care to read your sig line).
Now due to itīs reputation, you will think "What? He said my beats sound like Fruity Loops?". Ainīt that unfair?
Fruity Loops doesnīt have a "sound". The plugs have.
But I donīt use many of them. The DrumSynth is awesome.........and thatīs the only plug I use in FL on a regular basis.
You have to understand: there are people out there, who have to work really fast. on the fly. on the spot. If you are a good freestyle MC and you can spit for an hour without a break, you will get an album from me......after an hour.
L-I-V-E is the key. And (I mean it) I suck in that department compared to people I know.
Letīs use our VocAlign conversation in the other thread. Itīs great, but you said, doing it my way is less efficient........well, you are right. But only if you have the time to record a guiding track (which has to be pretty much perfect too). So while I scan the track, you recorded your first "guide track".............by the time you record your second to try another timing, I have already tried out dozens of different grooves.
halfguard (was it him?) asked about "audio engines" a couple of times.
I donīt think thatīs important at all.
Do you. Create your own sound. Learn how to do music LIVE.
The moment you will reach a certain level of improvisation skills, you will automaticly look for an additional set of ears.
Timbaland beats without Mr.Douglass sound like.....great ideas without "the sound".
I was once shut down, when a (famous) "mixing console artist" stepped by my studio and we had a discussion about hardware vs. skills.
He used the internal plugs of Logic 4.8 (yeah, itīs some years ago) and I had my (great) "hardware mix". My jaw dropped so hard on the floor man.....
I will never ever start another hardware/software vs. skills discussion in my entire life.
If he reads this.......I hate you LOL
As far as "getting what you pay for", I disagree.
Fuzzpilz, who is a Buzz "icon", created Oatmeal.
I think itīs by far the best softsynth (and I know a couple of them) that I have ever touched. Itīs $free-99.
You have Energy XT on the sequencer side. Itīs $50 and I donīt know of a sequencer, that has such a knowledgable and friendly userbase. Needless to say, some of the craziest MIDI plug ins have been created for it by itīs users.......some of them you always wished for and probably will never find in a "expensive" and "established" DAW. Used in Live as a VST, it gives you MIDI control you could never dream of.
Anyway, all I can offer is an additional pair of ears and eyes and a couple of ideas........plus my humble opinion.
@Kestral
you use Windows?
thatīs a big surprise. lol
did you finaly get your XV (hopefully with RAM and a SCSI drive?)