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Originally Posted by stellar oh no!
i think it must have!!
dangit.....nevermind.
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You're sorry! I'm sorry... I think I covered your questions to a "T", but it was so much work to write once!
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i guess i was just wondering how you consistently mix at the same exact volume day in and day out? I have to constantly change mine.... |
Mixing, yes, it's critical to hear your mix at different volumes throughout, though I do suggest you return to a standard or your bass response will wobble.
Mastering, I am very consistent, as I tried to write but lost that other post, within 1-2 dB. I wrote (but lost) something like---- I can't walk into my room cold turkey and get it right, but after about 10 minutes getting used to any given recording again, I can blindly set the monitor pot and then look at it and find it's within 1-2 dB of the setting I had already logged.
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i also agree that 83 db is LOUD. i measured someone talking to me in my studio yesterday while they didn't know it and it measured 62 db. |
Yes, 83 is loud, and on FORTISSIMO (whichis above Forte) passages in my room, both speakers running, I can get 83-86. But the more compressed the material, the less loud that seems because the transients seem to be gone, and the more dynamic the material, the less damaging it is because you only get those SPLs on the occasional peak. But there's nothing wrong with going for a lower if that sounds too loud for you! Nearfields would kill the ears at that SPL. Don't forget I'm working with a full range system that is not thin or bright at about 9 foot distance in a pretty large room.
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i guess i also fail to see how you would never have an over with your system. I mean, unless you have already set the limiter at 0. otherwise, if I am mixing at a -14db or even a =20 db average level, at a specific monitoring level, i am still liable to get overs, no matter what monitoring level. i guess i should just try it because these verbal descriptions are making no sense to me.
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K-20 monitor gains would ensure that you won't get an over because if it sounds too loud it's got to be going over! That's the magic of mixing K-20, it liberates you from those questions and you can concentrate on the sound. That's what they do in the film studios. And my engineer mixer friends who mix on analog consoles and watch their VU meters and set their gains so 0 VU is - 20 dBFS NEVER get an over either!
But turn down the monitor gain, say, a K-14 monitor gain (83 dB at 0 level) and you have to use a peak limiter or other protection, so suddenly you feel forced to use that bus processing for overload reasons----not necessarily for the sound, but it's going to affect the sound. If that's what you want, and you're doing it for the sound, fine, but I firmly believe it is the misuse of the system, the desire to get those meters to the top that makes people think they need a compressor or a limiter.
BK