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Old 30th June 2006   #27
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Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt
If you spend a little time on Google you can find some tests with various limiters including the L2 and L3, where you visually can see the amount of distortion introduced by the L3 is massively worse than the L2 and several other limiters.

To my ears this causes an unnatural, distorted and skewed sound image which sounds overly processed and annoys my ears to no end. Shattered glass I guess.

While the idea of the intelligent peak limiting mixer with its relationship between peak detection and attenuation different from conventional multiband splitting due to the summing and distribution algorithm, it fails to deliver on the promised high fidelity.

I believe Waves are well aware of these side effects but either couldn't fix it or chose to ignore it as a functionality trade off.

I believe you can get much better results without the L3 by using linear phase multiband compression and wideband limiting as found in the L2. I've only once used the L3 over the L2 on a master.
http://home.casema.nl/ajohnston/limiting/

btw i fully agree
the l3 is more impressive on paper than actually in action.

for clean stuff the new kjaerhus one is great, elephant can be clean too and the uad one is great on acoustic stuff.

for heavy transient stuff no limiter at all tutt
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