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Originally Posted by bob katz Excuse my poor communication skills! :-). What I mean by not having to look at the meters is simply that if you apply enough monitor gain you will never record with an overload. And for 24 bit recording you just don't have to deal with the meters as long as, say, the maximum peak is somewhere above -10 dBFs, but it can even be lower than that and you will not perceive a signal to noise ratio degradation. So yes, you can mix "softer" (whatever that means) with the monitor gain at K-20 (0 dB on the monitor pot) and I'll bet you dollars to donuts that your max peak will still land at -10 dBFS or above. Go for the sound, trust your ears. Let us know how it works. |
Thank You BOB and You all here for this great thread.
By "softer" I mean that we ( me and my wifey-assistant
) tend to listen and mix at quiet levels. I was reading a lot about SPL, db and so on and came to conclusion thats probably a personal problem of us.
We both are coming from classical music, both being professional orchester musicians.
I have the filling that what we hear (loud or soft) is what we remember from the days in orchestra. There is so much dynamic change, but you´ll notice that after a big FF ssimo there is ALLWAYS ( or almost, shame on Wagner) a quiet phrase, giving the listener time to breath. Thats brings us I guess to attenuate our monitoring level when mixing (specialy dance music
).
I have another question. Right now I read the book "Mixing with your mind" (great book by the way) by Mike Stavrou. In one chapter he explains his thoughts about mixing to digital.
He writes, one shoud aim for better peak/VU ratio (less peak more VU)than to analog, trying to mix close to digital 0VU. It looks like he thinks that digital audio tends to produce more distortion at lower VU than analog. (man, I hope I understood everything correct
).
Im not able to hear the difference between less or more digital 0, but I cant also tell the difference between 48kHz and 44kHz :(
Is it true? It makes all the things more confusing.
When we mix with K-14 (we love it ,our customers allmost allways...) we tend to stay between -10 -5db peak (but at monitor gain about 79db), than it sounds OK. ITs not close to digital 0 at all...
Thank you
Wojtek