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Old 7th December 2011   #54
manysounds
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Tune your kick well so it rings long and low with nothing inside.

Put "some" padding in to control the low note ring but don't kill it. Without a "note" you have nothing to work with.

When you mic inside the drum don't put it too close to the beater or the attack will be too loud compared to the sustained lows that follow. I usually put the mic about 1/3 of the depth of the drum. Direct center doesn't seem to work out, probably because internal phase cancellation but I may be making that up.

For a ton of low end use a mic in a front head hole. A difference of a centimeter in or out of will change the response dramatically and you'll have to play with it. Or use the classic "speak as a mic" for a bass transducer, especially with an uncut front head. OR there's some old school method where you use a roll of carpet up on the drum or in the hole and then mic the end of that for "sub woof". Combining this with an inside mic for attack is a famous sound; the ole' SM91 on the inside and M88 in the hole is a classic live soundguy thing and works well for recording rock/metal/dance.

Without any processing *at all* a correctly tuned and damped drum with the right mic in the right spot, into a decent pre should be a perfect start, if not exactly what you need.

Beyond all of that there is the standard EQ points to go for and some carefully squeezing compression will bring the ringing lows up on the tail. Then set a gate to trim the note to the style and do whatever you want to the attack. Also, distortion, O yes. I've re-amped snares through guitar amps and pushed kick drums through all kinds of distortion, bass amps... Even played a kick through a PA with a blown/rattling EAW 850 (and sub) and re-recorded a mic in the room.

This is just my usual approach, there are many ways to achieve a useable sound. The classic 3 mic setup for drums (that I also use often) has nothing to do with this or any of the other techniques, obviously.

Drumagog and whatever time-aligning/sound replacers are a crutch and you'll just end up sounding like everyone else who uses them, IMO. I avoid them completely, if I can. If you have a perfect take except for one snare hit in the middle of the track it's no reason to apply the tool across the whole thing, just fix the one spot. It's just as bad as keeping auto-tune on automatic for an entire song. You'll kill the life of the performance and then spend hours/days/weeks bringing life back to it in the editing.

Last edited by manysounds; 7th December 2011 at 02:09 PM.. Reason: spelling, clarity
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