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Old 9th May 2006   #24
Ruairi
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Originally Posted by u b i k
hey now, slow down, and listen to the tom fill that opens up paper tiger: those drums are not dead, not even close. they are resonant, open, unmuffled, and singing, and tuned l-o-w.

there's a neutrality to the space around them, but it's not necessarily a small dead space because small dead spaces often have a low-mid buildup that i don't hear on this track. i'd try a larger room and create a neutral drum zone with carpeted gobos and packing blankets. overheads close by, close mic on everything but use the overheads as the primary source.

and like everyone else has said, play dead soft.

lastly, the biggest key to the drum sound in this tune, and any tune for that matter, is the arrangement of everything else. that first verse is, what, drums, soft bass, and voice? get the sound imprinted on the brain and when the tune gets denser the listener will still hear the bigger sounds from memory.


gregoire
del ubik


Gregoire is on the money here. A small space could sound boxy or have a low mid buildup. I would chase this sound in a larger room using gobos. Don't use too many mics.

I've never really tried copying that tom sound but I did get an almost knock off of the Sea Change kick and snare vibe. I recorded in a medium sized room (my old control room) that was fairly well treated. I used only 2 mics, a 441 on the kick and a 414 on the snare/hats. The kick was tuned low, no front skin and the mic was away from the beater. The snare was tuned low, played lightly (the hats even lighter) and had a dish towel thrown over. It sounded great for the vibe we wanted. The kit was a crappy export and I am a lame drummer but I kept it simple and it worked well.

I also recently recorded a drummer using a fibre skin on his snare and it sounded great for that dull, leathery thud,

best of luck,
Ruairi
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