[Northward]

Originally Posted by Jens Eklund

First let me say sorry to the OP but I think there’s an interest in the discussion of different designs and the responses of these.

+1 (I'll be quick)

Originally Posted by Jens Eklund

Dan, please describe the ETC for an NE room compared to an LEDE/RFZ room (and just to be clear, we are interested in the response given when listening to program material using the monitors, not how the room behaves in other circumstances, response for monitor to listener in other words since this is the most relevant feature of a control room) and after doing this, again state that I’m wrong in my assumption that you favor relatively dead control rooms!

Originally Posted by Jens Eklund

Oh, and in my world, the source of importance is the speaker and it seldom moves. I know Thomas has strong opinions about the importance of room feedback from people as well but in a normal LEDE-room (not completely absorptive in the front half of the room), you don’t have any problem with the room feeling to dead when having a conversation person to person. But again, the response between speaker and listener is what matters most naturally. If you don’t agree on this, the discussion is over.

It's called "non-environment". It's direct field all the way. You know how the ETC looks like. Burst then low level noise.

As clean as it gets.

But the problem here is that by taking this approach and forcing the discussion there, you willingly ignore the fact that this piece of info on it's own is meaningless, and just misguiding.

Listening in a semi anechoic chamber (hard floor) is a tasteless and disappointing experience.
N.E. on the other hand, provides an enjoyable experience.

Both rooms provide similar very direct path to the listener, no early or late reflections in both cases. There is no difference there right?
So what in hell can trigger that major difference in the perception of the music playback experience?

The perceived environment.
How the brain calibrates to it.
This is the KEY.

So the question you're asking Dan has 2 answers: Yes and No. And they're both right. It will never go anywhere.

And as an aside, seen from this angle... Do we really need LEDE's ISD gap, termination etc? Could it be that what we really need are just proper environmental cues that don't need to actually interact with the speakers/playback at all to be effective?

To quote Dan, "have your cake and eat it too".

I'm out now. Be well.

To the O.P: good luck in your endeavor and thanks for your patience... And hope you get your room right!