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Old 1st March 2011   #14
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Originally Posted by golden beers View Post
first off just to say that if you go blindly into a collaboration just assuming you both like the same things, it's not going to end well.



my set up is small potatoes, believe me.

the way we're currently working is the Tarkonizer comes over with some tribal-futurist ultra dense percussion loops of his own making.

we then bounce them into my daw.
discuss the layers and processes them, eg we took a small percussive element and fed it into the MS20 and jammed with it. used audio sections from that jam. added a special convolution verb i've been working on to another element.
play about, experiment, edit. mix.

talk about adding layers or re-doing layers with this synth or that. try some things out.

we're happy with the way things are going on this track.

when it's finished maybe next time we'll do the same.

we have a track of his on the back burner we want to re-work. when we get more used to how to work together we'll have a bash at that.

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I think it's fine to work on elements separately but not cool to get attached to these elements. best to use what we do apart as a sketch and rework that sketch (or throw it away) when we're together.

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we're just at the start of this colab so our working practice isnt set yet.

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it's very important to have a meeting before any kind of commitment to work together creatively.

we met up last year after some email exchanges. during that meeting I made sure that the Tarkenstien wasn't too precious about his creations - that he was open to my opinions. There's nothing worse in a collaboration than one party liking his own ideas just because they're his own. This happens all the time, some people can't step back and listen. We both can and we both want what's best for the project without ego getting involved. so I have high hopes for what we're going to produce.


The starting point for me was finding someone's music here on GS that I understood and liked. Also I really think that the Tbird I has strenghts where I have weakness and vice versa.. The guy was eqing shit in our mix I didnt even know was there. a real education in mixology for me.
Thanks GB I couldn't agree more with the points you have made. That was kind of the point of my op to get people talking and sharing stuff as it didn't seem to be happening.

Having said that it appears Kilon has been through this before and in a lot better manner than my half arsed attempt!

I also though it maybe fun to post up individual pieces as GB has mentioned. A drum loop or bass line for others to go away with, add to, rearrange, totally twist, whatever. Post it back and see where it ends up.

Perhaps now Kilons link is on here we can resurrect that. I think my search missed it cause I searched the whole word rather than

I guess the key to this as GB said is not to be precious about anything. I am hoping I will learn a lot from any input from others.
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