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Old 3rd March 2006   #2
Rodney Gene
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Originally Posted by celebritymusic

I guess that's what makes the great producers really special. they can hear how the song will sound, and so can make a solid decision about the fundamental rhythm parts before they've been recorded.
All producers work differently Shaun and very few have the 'insight' to know what is great 'before' it is great. In my experience the best producers have alot of intuition and can feel when the energy, performance, feel, vibe etc is there.
Some have little musical contribution...and others have a massive percentage of the writing and creating of the parts including arrangement. It all depends on the artist / producer relationship...

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Originally Posted by celebritymusic
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I ask because I assume there are a lot of bedroom musos using online session services, and possibly not getting the best result due to a lack of production insight - something i am dealing with.

Thanks!

Shaun
Yes bro, I have a ton of thoughts on this as I have been self producing for a long time...as well as producing for other artists..

It ain't easy!!
Not if you also have to engineer.

I love the producing and writing...I don't like the engineering part. I ain't no engineer, even after years behind the wheel.

It can be challenging to capture 'energy' if you are playing and writing all of the parts but it can certainly be done (Stevie Wonder, Prince, George Michael, Lenny Kravitz etc). My approach is simple...I play each part like it is band practice until I get it the way I want...then I move on. Having played music for so long and been playing both Bass and guitar professionally I have a solid idea how I would approach the songs from a real players standpoint...and I use that perspective all of the time and it helps.

My contribution..if I had anyone thing to say to someone who was getting stuck doing it all themselves is...don't over do it. Keep it simple and keep it as honest as possible. Don't lose sight of the song or let it take you down some random road.

I am about to finish 6 demo songs (self produced) and use them to negotiate a deal with a producer. This next album of mine needs the insight of another great mind and a great engineer...I need to focus on performing.

My vision is often much clearer if I am producing another artist...but I can get too deep into my own ideas when I am the artist and can I lose sight of the main thing...the big picture.

Heres a tune from the demo series...
My interpretation of Ballpeen Hammer...
Not a typical rock tune but getting the vibe right even for a demo takes the right approach.

Respect and best to you,
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