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Originally Posted by sadworld i'm used to 16in and 16 out so i've never had an issue but i'd like to upgrade my converters to high end stuff... maybe rosetta 800. i can only afford one at the moment. just wondering who records a live drum kit and gets by with 8in and 8out adda? how do you work? do you premix drums on the way out to your mixer? usually i'll need the 8outs for drums but i'm just trying to see if theres a way i can do this upgrade and still be able to work....if theres a way around this i'm not thinking of, please share. thanks. matt. |
Going in:
If you're confident with your skills you can sub-mix the toms to a stereo pair and get away with only 8 channels... You might need to sub-mix the kick mics and snare mics if you're using inside/outside or top/bottom mics. 8 channels gets you stereo overheads, stereo toms, stereo room plus kick and snare... Depending on the size of your room, you might sacrifice the room mics for Hat/ride or run separate channels for your kick & snare setups if you're multi-micing them.
It always helps if you don't have to track any other keepers at the same time - so the band either has to know their shit or else track a scratch guitar to a click first.
Going out:
I don't see a need for a ton of drum channels coming out. If your DAW can't sum a couple of tom tracks to stereo without chewing up the imaging then you need something better...
There was a tape-op article about sub-mix compression with Michael Brauer. Anyhow, his method with four compression groups on an SSL is similar to the way I've always grouped stuff when I only have 8 outputs.
Submix your stuff in the box so it's all of similar frequencies - outs 1 & 2 are usually my drums, outs 2 & 3 are guitars and keys, out 4 vox, out 5 bass, outs 7 & 8 are usually reserved for stuff that comes straight through the box w/o a whole lot of compression or processing - drum overheads, aux returns (cuz the signal is effected, but clean thru the DAW...)
Of course, 16 channels out always gives you more flexibility, but you can certainly work with 8.
Another thing to consider (hold your ears, uber sluts...) is the ADA-8000. The mic pre's suck, but the rest of the box is OK. In a pinch it's a super way to add 8 channels of output - in the tests we did the DA on the Behringer was cleaner than the MOTU stuff we used for our standard setup, and blew the Digi002 DA converters out of the water.
ryan