Originally Posted by sparqee
Grabbing a real fader, knob or button will always be faster and easier than using a virtual interface..
This is definitely true for me. In my new digital room I'll have 32 Euphonix faders so that will certainly help. The weird thing I've come to find out, is that new guys who have never used a real console find using knobs and faders counterproductive.. they'd rather use a trackball/mouse!
Weird, but its happening.
Originally Posted by Convectuoso
From looking at the marketing spiel on their website it honestly sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
Capitalizing on an obvious trend in the audio industry by using buzz words like 'sweet spot', 'imaging' and 'depth' to fool people into thinking this is the magic tool that their mixes are missing.
A lot of guys who mix on consoles have said that they create a certain depth and soundstage.. I tend to agree.. and some desks certainly do have a sweetspot that you get to know after using them for a while. Is it that absurd that when we modeled the consoles, we wanted to make sure that this type of dynamic phenomenon was captured? I don't think so. Sure its marketing.. I mean we do want to sell a few of these puppies. But it's marketing based on facts.
Originally Posted by malko
^^^ this is what worries me. His drum samples sound like total shit yet the marketing seemed to work.
Well this is bad news. I thought my drum samples sounded pretty good. There are certainly people out there who seem
to like them. But I get what you're saying. If my drum samples are total shit, then the VCC might be total shit too. I would definitely take that into account before purchasing.
Originally Posted by The dman
I heard he's going to have that as a free download
Man I'd love to download a Neve preamp. When I can offer that, please know that I'll be retiring soon after!
Originally Posted by Teddy Ray
I don't see the problem here. If you don't like it, then don't buy it, but there is no reason whatsoever to insult the man or speak ill... He is addressing a need that many folks have. You jump all over him, but don't flinch at the 6.2 million new hardware boxes and the hype that surrounds them every month.
This makes sense to me too. We definitely won't hold a gun to your head and force you to buy the VCC. Unless you're in to that kind of thing
Originally Posted by fantomen
And anyone thinking on building a studio and looking at todays economics in the industry might think the same about your comment.
Once this is out and if it sounds just like the real deal, will be a hard task to convince the guy owning the studio that he should pay tons of k$ because 'even if it sounds the same, it is more fancy or feels better to operate' than a plugin
Great point. Its gonna be very interesting for me, an analog console guy, to mix in my new digital room. I'm sure it will take some getting used to, but it'll be fun to learn. Its my opinion that I think the industry is definitely going this way. Maybe the VCC will jumpstart it even more.. we'll see soon enough.
Originally Posted by TonyBelmont
No. This plugin will have zero effect in that regard.
Consoles will go away when the convenience of mixing ITB outweighs whatever sound quality benefits or workflow habits people have in regards to large consoles.
In some ways, it has already happened.
History shows us that to a point, convenience KILLS everything. This is the reason SSL consoles originally became the mixing standard. Because the convenience of Total Recall.
Agree with this all the way. My Frankotek (modded Neotek) does not have total recall. So recalling, which btw I have to do quite a bit, really sucks! I can't wait to recall a mix by simply opening a project! So there's the convenience for me at least.. the VCC will provide the sound for me.. So here's hoping I got myself a handy new way to work!thumbsup
Originally Posted by drBill
Sitting in front of a duality today. Nice console.
Nice product. Real. Tangible. Breathing. Lifelike.
Software on a computer is not going to replace all of that. That's marketings job.
It won't for you and it won't for my friend Aris who also has a Duality (which is a lovely console!). But it might for me! Dunno yet.
Originally Posted by butterfly
............if I remember correctly...........there was a new product alert and some comparisons with a real console a while back...............I remember distinctly buying into that hype..........I'm quite gullible that way.........Listening to the files, I was dissapointed, the console simply sounded better. I don't see why this should be any different from when I put my waves cla 1176 on a vocal track believing that it might sound like a 1176 and then run the same vocal through my hardware..........game over. Software is great but it simply doesn't have the vibe, mojo, human-ness.. of great hardware.
Hmmm, my recollection of that thread was that some people chose the plugin as a favorite, some the console.. I think the VCC really nails it, but you'll have to decide that one fo'yo self.