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Old 6th September 2010   #203
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Originally Posted by Budda View Post
Sorry, man.

If all processing was done in the box - save for some hi shelves - you will likely get 100% the same mix. It may SOUND different to you because of the better D/A section (if you're using the 002r as your monitor source), but the mod will do nothing to improve the sound files you have already recorded nor the RTAS processing. If you RE-record whatever you did, or if you bounced your mix out to some analogue gear before and recorded the final print back into your box, THEN you might start to get an actual different mix. Depending on those hi-shelves - if you even run the mix through them, or if you already printed them into the box - your mix will be 100% the same.

Improvements are:
1) input stage: better front end, so analogue signal is better captured and the A/D better converts it
2) output stage: better front end, so analogue signal is better reproduced on the outputs and the D/A better converts it
3) clock: improved monitoring

So, to reiterate:

An in-the-box mix will not BE different, and your mastering house will tell you the same. It may SOUND different to you because of your improved analogue stages and D/A, but that is just translation error: your mix WILL BE THE SAME.

You will only realize the benefits of the modded box if you REMIX your original mix, making different mix decisions.

You will also, of course, realize its benefits next time you track into it and mix something else.

Also, Mr. Shipley - peeder-peppertree-spicemix has been found out. As opposed to being an honest, scientific naysayer as he claims to be, he engages in unfounded criticism of BLA to the extent that Jules has removed his comments from this thread. He has changed his user ID a few times after having been banned. He will have nothing more to "contribute" here.
Hmm...

Since I'm spreading it to analog summing (my Soundcraft) and recording it back into Pro Tools, it's not ITB (how did you come to that conclusion in the 1st place?). As I said, I'm not gonna change a thing. The mix will be re-created based on the PT mix session and my photos of the console. Yes, the mix is the same, but it will be coming through better D/A coversion and the mix will be recorded back into PT through better line inputs and A/D conversion. I dare say that there's gonna be a difference in the end result if the modded unit does what BLA (and several happy users) says.

I know very well that I can't change the fact that the song was recorded through the lesser line inputs (all preamps were Soundcraft) and A/D conversion. Those things I will test later. And yes, I'm monitoring through my console.

Kindest rergards,
Erkka
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