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Old 6th September 2010   #48
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Originally Posted by mgthefuture View Post
My facts are straight. Reason does none of the above. It doesnt Zone samples (with slice markers), it doesnt midi dump from audio..it doesnt time stretch..it doesnt batch export, and you cant chop audio like you could in a regular daw..


we're not talking coming up with tricks and work arounds in nnxt either..

so you sound like a lost reason user, still, FL for 99 trumps it.
Sorry to be contrary, Mg, but I gotta disagree. You said "no one is making a beat without a VST".

Thats extremely far from the truth. The only thing I need VST's for is in the mixing and Mastering stage when I export all my tracks outta Reason and rebuild the tune in a DAW.

Ive rarely heard anything coming from FL that even impresses me. Thats why I said I thought your track from FL was good, Mg, and it is. No one here can diss or say anything negative about your sound. Youve got a bass and kick drum thats as fat as hell, so any of this talk isnt a knock against you - we're gonna knock FL though.

Myself, I have a 2.5 dual core 3 gig Vista. Now, I highly doubt that I could get 14 to 30 different VSTi's open in a DAW without my computer totally failing. Therefore, performance wise, to me Reason shatters FL. And am I missing out on good sounds? I dont think so. Ive NEVER heard drums from anything done in FL that I couldnt do better with drums from Reason. Never.

Also, Reason does most certainly "zone" samples, and does it with ease. I just took a long waveform that was the entire vocal track to a song, sliced it in ReCycle, loaded it in an NN-XT and with one click, mapped every single individual word to a key on my keyboard. Easy as hell. No weird "workaround" required, simply knowledge of what youre working with is all thats needed.

Just check YouTube for the utter wealth of amateur "beats" done with FL. The drums and sounds used often sound like shit and something thats a FAR cry from being professional.

If you can direct me to a page that shows some professional examples of FL being used, Id love to check it out. Most everything Ive heard from FL sounds like its some kid who is "trying" to be a producer. I simply laugh at most drum sounds I hear from FL, to be honest.

Now....to a few of us, its completely OBVIOUS why Reason is more expensive than FL. Granted, pointing out the $99 price point of FL is certainly relevant. And that is an epic price for what it does. However, the proof is in the pudding, my friend. Ive searched long and hard and most everytime I hear a production done with FL, its less than what Id consider "professional".

So to me, why would I use something that by and large sounds "amateur"? Have I simply missed all these professionally done beats and productions done soley with FL, or is there a possible commonality going on here? I think its the latter. Again, the proof is in the pudding and most everything Ive heard from FL is.....lacking.
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