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Originally Posted by Quint I actually think that the production sounds pretty good. It kind of reminds me of "Cold Roses" from Ryan Adams. There's a similar vibe/sound going on in your song.
This is just my opinion so take it for whatever it's worth. The only thing that I might say is that, when they're present, the vocals provide a faux sense of depth/space in the drums and guitar tracks. The problem is that, when the vocals aren't there, everything else automatically appears more upfront (more upfront than I would have placed them anyway). As others have mentioned, I would increase the predelay to bring the vocals a little more upfront. At the same time I would add a little more reverb/delay to the drums and maybe guitars to keep the overall sense of ambience going (maybe bring your room mics up a little in the mix?). That way you don't have a loss of ambience whenever the vocals drop out.
Anyway, I'm only talking about real minor changes here. Maybe 10 to 20 msecs of predelay on the vocals and just a little more space on the drums. I think the the production actually sounds really great and think you did a great job.
By the way, what reverb/delays did you use on the various individual tracks/buses on this song? How high is the ceiling and how big is the room that you recorded this song in? Was this mixed ITB or OTB and what comps did you use? |
Thank you guys for the great tips, I'm gonna do a remix tomorrow and I'll definitely be trying all of your ideas.
Quint: the room i used had 15' ceilings, and was about 20' by 30'. The one irritating thing about it is that it was designed in the 80's so it is as dead as can be. It has sound panels/bass traps covering 80% of the ceiling, defusers on every wall and carpeted floors, so I just decided to go for the super dead drum sound.
I don't have much in the way of cool plugins, so I ended up just using the Digi- D Verb on all the vocals (comes free with protools). I used the compressor on the ACP 88 very lightly on the drums as I was tracking (i'm very familiar with that comp, otherwise I would not compress during tracking), as well as the comp on my LA6-10 for the vocals. But other than those instances, the mix was completely ITB.
The plugin comps I used were: Massey CT4 for extra compression on vox. the digirack compresson/limiter on snare bottom, OH's, and ac-guitars. joemeek sc2 on kick.
the only delay in the mix was a little bit of the digirack mod delay II.
I also threw the massey tape head on the ac-guitars, kinda gave it a cool texture, real nice mids.
Anyway, thanks again for all the feed back! And by all means, keep it coming!
chris