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I have lotsa luck with an ORTF right up about three feet over the conductor's head, and then I would advise micing like you are facing a gigantic drumkit--two mics well off to the side, and then two mics behind everyone onstage.
And yeah, for the soloists, you really ought to have something not more than about ten feet away, tops.
Not being "instrusive" is really tough in these cases. By the time the sound makes its way out to mics in the hall, it's really mushy and swarmy.
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