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Trebor Flow · 27th December 2005

Hi Chris

I have taken some time to test Uno and Melodyne 3 to properly answer your questions as you naturally would like scientific answers as opposed to hear say.

I have imorted a comped vocal into Uno and exported with NO processing and then phase tested against the original file in Logic and PT and the exported file completly NULLED.

As soon as you make a single edit in Uno then the whole file fails the NULL test as it seems the whole file has been processed and the file loses sample accuracy. There is NO change in audio quality but the file will not null.

In Melodyne 3 if I import the same comped vocal and set the file to PLAIN (which suspends processing although you can still see the Melodyne GUI for editing) then the file passes NULL testing after export with no change in length or position.

So my working method in Melodyne 3 to achieve audiophile quality is to import my vocal for editing plus a reference backing track and any harmonies, I then drag any offending syllables to a new track (which is added automatically) the main vocal track is then set to PLAIN and I make my edits to the out of tune syllables (which, as may know, is very fast and simple with the Melodyne GUI)

Now I export the tracks - I end up with an original track minus the offending words which is phase accurate and perfectly passes a NULL test, and a fixed vocal track which is very natural sounding and then I reimport these into Logic/PT. This may seem long winded (and for a quick fix AT is still good) but for critical album tracks the process is lighting fast to edit and the results are beautiful.

I understand from reading old posts that these things were not possible with ealier versions, however this is definately now not the case, and I have been able to create the most incredible sounding vocal tracks very very fast and when time is money .... thumbsup

Hope this helps

Best

Trebor

27th December 2005	#12
Trebor Flow Registered User Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 523 Thread Starter	Hi Chris I have taken some time to test Uno and Melodyne 3 to properly answer your questions as you naturally would like scientific answers as opposed to hear say. I have imorted a comped vocal into Uno and exported with NO processing and then phase tested against the original file in Logic and PT and the exported file completly NULLED. As soon as you make a single edit in Uno then the whole file fails the NULL test as it seems the whole file has been processed and the file loses sample accuracy. There is NO change in audio quality but the file will not null. In Melodyne 3 if I import the same comped vocal and set the file to PLAIN (which suspends processing although you can still see the Melodyne GUI for editing) then the file passes NULL testing after export with no change in length or position. So my working method in Melodyne 3 to achieve audiophile quality is to import my vocal for editing plus a reference backing track and any harmonies, I then drag any offending syllables to a new track (which is added automatically) the main vocal track is then set to PLAIN and I make my edits to the out of tune syllables (which, as may know, is very fast and simple with the Melodyne GUI) Now I export the tracks - I end up with an original track minus the offending words which is phase accurate and perfectly passes a NULL test, and a fixed vocal track which is very natural sounding and then I reimport these into Logic/PT. This may seem long winded (and for a quick fix AT is still good) but for critical album tracks the process is lighting fast to edit and the results are beautiful. I understand from reading old posts that these things were not possible with ealier versions, however this is definately now not the case, and I have been able to create the most incredible sounding vocal tracks very very fast and when time is money .... thumbsup Hope this helps Best Trebor