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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor I've only looked inside 2 of them(the Averill wasn't one of them) and the AMS-Neve reissue.
The 2 were different but they offered more features as well.
One to me doesn't sound like the real thing at all.
It actually sounds closer to an AB Neve mic pre.
To me a lot of the Neve mic pre sound is in the transformer and the caps and this one didn't have them the same.
The other had the vibe thing down(Neve sound) it just lacked some of the size. |
I know what your saying and I completely agree with you that some of these clones are not of the same quality as the AMS-Neve units or the Brent Averills (and you and I both know which one's, which shall remain nameless).
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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor My point is that the AMS-Neve reissue is a reissued Neve 1073 not a clone.
They own the rights and the patents.
If Brent Averill uses the parts(which i am pretty sure he does since i sold Avedis in the past some API and Neve transformers)it doesn't make it a Neve, but a Brent Averill 1073 0r 1084 as he calls it. |
Agreed... but all of the patents have since expired, so the only thing they still retain is the likeness, and obviously the name. I also agree with what JB was saying as far as it not being the same company. There are some remaining employees from the old days. But, this company has changed hands many times over the years and many of the original suppliers have also disappeared as well. But, the name alone is worth a premium.
I was just trying to point out that there aren't really any "authentic" parts in the AMS units compared to the highest quality 1073 clones. There is nothing in the audio path of the module that they are actually manufacturing that isn't available to, and used by others (from the schematic to the parts).